[meteorite-list] Not to worry. Nukes are good.

From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:14:31 -0500
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=CN4WJ3_OwADObEYenvUywu1Nua3_vjyf1jgUa_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

When local officials start handing out iodine pills and evacuating
everyone within a 20km radius, this peasant runs for the hills.

We have a nuclear power plant (Crystal River) near my home. I have
never worried about it, and I won't worry about it now. But I must
admit that I am worried for our friends in Japan. My stepson lived in
Fukuoka for a year and half while teaching English. He met many nice
people there and still has several friends who live there - some of
whom who has not been able to get into contact with.

I hope everything turns out OK. The Japanese, more than any people on
Earth, know the full effects of radiation exposure, and I am sure they
are taking this event very seriously. Let's all wish them luck in
getting this situation under control.

Best regards,

MikeG




On 3/12/11, John Hendry <pict at pict.co.uk> wrote:
> Count,
>
> I'm sure it would help the peace of mind of the great unwashed and
> medieval thinking people like myself if the liberal and antiliberal press
> alike would do their job, ask the right questions to the right people, and
> explain a few basic facts. I am presuming the reactor's pneumatically or
> hydraulically operated control rods were deployed to stop fission in the
> immediate aftermath of the quake. I have seen no news report confirming
> this or even mentioning it. I am also presuming the attempts to maintain
> cooling are to remove residual heat from the fuel. I have seen no news
> report confirming this or even mentioning it. I am presuming the large
> explosion I just watched on Fox at Fukushima No.1 was the water coolant
> system giving way due to excessive pressure, which has me now speculating
> that they lost relief valve control (flat battery?). These pictures are
> running in conjunction with the commentary reporting that Japan's Nuclear
> Safety Commission are saying that it may be experiencing a meltdown. So
> all my peasant level analysis leads me to speculate that that the core is
> hot, intact, with no fission reaction and is cooling slowly. Meanwhile the
> redundancy in the cooling system has appeared to have failed to save its
> plumbing from getting blown to bits by residual reactor heat. This appears
> at odds to what their safety commission is telling the world so I have to
> suspect my pathetic attempts to understand the events are in error.
>
> I just feel so very sad for the people in Japan. I cannot possibly fathom
> from the information given by press and government institutions alike what
> the true story is. And I would resist the notion, perhaps naively, that it
> is due to apathy regarding trying to understand the science. I personally
> think and hope that things will be just fine regarding any fuel
> contamination (only low level from coolant dispersal - assuming no fuel
> contamination) but I am not reassured by any listening, thinking, or
> reading I have done. What do I know?... anything can go pear shaped. I've
> worked in the Ukraine, I've seen first hand the melted carcass of Piper
> Alpha. I agree with much of what you allude to My Lord, but I am not
> enamoured of the tone in parts. The best laid plans of mice and men gang
> aft aglae, and leave us nought but grief and pain for promised joy. Bad
> things happen and dismissiveness of slim probabilities breeds complacency
> and trivialises disaster when it inevitably comes. The handling and
> containment of nuclear materials is serious stuff and warrants due respect
> and consideration to the risk and reward of such endeavour, as does all
> our other major sources of energy production. People shouldn't have to
> break mental sweat to do research. They pay good money to government and
> media organisations from the labours of their own expertise, and deserve
> to be informed in accurate, unbiased and understandable terms. I don't
> think the notion that this doesn't happen very well should lead to the
> assumption that the lay electorate are peasants ill deserving of a hand on
> their own destiny.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On 11/03/2011 21:48, "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Not to worry Mike, Dirk and Listers,
>>
>>The GE designed reactors (1960) at Fukushima/Daiichi have triple on site
>>redundancy in cooling and containment and the possibility of an
>>uncontrolled environmentally harmful release of radioactive (in this case
>>steam) is negligible.
>>
>>It's all in the numbers. When the media reports that core pressures are
>>such and such above normal and that the radioactivity that might be
>>released is " thousand of times above normal", they fail to tell you that
>>"normal" is such a low level of emission as to mean nothing to humans, or
>>the environment.
>>
>>This same kind of irresponsible reporting created the infamous, an
>>unnecessary, panic at "Three Mile Island" where the total tritium release
>>equated to a couple of X-rays, or a trip across the USA on an airliner.
>>
>>My point is, that If you demonstrated to the typical uneducated man in
>>the street that a bit of Trinitite was giving off 1000 times the
>>background (normal) radiation level, he'd panic. I've proved this by
>>putting a contamination meter on Trinitite samples with the sensitivity
>>set to high and watching my victim's reaction as it loudly goes off scale.
>>
>>When I served on Nevada's Nuclear Waste Study Committee and was the
>>entertainment on the Chamber of Commerce and Lion's Club rubber chicken
>>circuit, I used to place a common household smoke detector (They contain
>>an Americium emitter) under some hapless audience member's chair and
>>then, much to his discomfort, using a meter to locate him.
>>
>>The great unwashed have more fears than medieval peasants, yet they
>>refuse to expend the mental sweat to learn the science. Ask them to
>>listen to more than two sentences describing fission and their eyes glaze
>>over. Yet their votes decide the future of energy production, or better
>>said..the lack of it....in my country.
>>
>>Regards and stay calm.
>>
>>Count Deiro
>>IMCA 3536
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>Sent: Mar 11, 2011 6:32 PM
>>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>>>Cc: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope
>>>Dirk and others are ok
>>>
>>>Hi Count and List,
>>>
>>>I pray you are correct Count! The situation at Fukashima is getting
>>>worse and they are trying to open the valve to release pressure - a
>>>bad sign itself. And now they are having problems getting the valve
>>>to work. :(
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>MikeG
>>>
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>>>On 3/11/11, Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> There are two chances that any reactor built in a developed country
>>>>will do
>>>> a Chernobyl.
>>>>
>>>> Slim and None.
>>>>
>>>> The liberal media loves to run with this stuff to increase viewership.
>>>> Politicians demagogue everything nuclear to get re-elected. The result
>>>>is an
>>>> electorate with more unfounded fears than a mob of medival peasants.
>>>>
>>>> Count Deiro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>>Sent: Mar 11, 2011 8:05 AM
>>>>>To: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>>>>>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
>>>>>Hope
>>>>> Dirk and others are ok
>>>>>
>>>>>Stay safe Dirk! I hope you are nowhere near the Fukashima (sp?)
>>>>>nuclear power plant. I heard they cannot cool the reactor and they
>>>>>are evacuating the facility. It could be another 3-mile Island or
>>>>>Chernobyl.
>>>>>
>>>>>My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in the quake zone.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>MikeG
>>>>>
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>>>>>On 3/11/11, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We are having another big rupture as I type.... under the table.
>>>>>> Dirk...Tokyo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
>>>>>>>Hope
>>>>>>> Dirk and others are ok
>>>>>>> To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 12:16 AM
>>>>>>> Here's a live English news feed on Al
>>>>>>> Jazeera:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the NHK:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm
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