[meteorite-list] regarding post of NWA 001 question PLUS carelessIMCA member

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:01:34 +1000
Message-ID: <868CFF7C4BB945F99205D754DC165B98_at_JeffPC>

I'm sorry you seem to have issues with the IMCA Dan but if you have problems
you could easily approach the association to report any concerns. I'm
wondering if this has something to do with you being removed from the IMCA
in the past and denied re-entry again last week? It would seem to me that
the timing is ironic.

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Furlan" <danfurlan at gmail.com>
To: "met-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] regarding post of NWA 001 question PLUS
carelessIMCA member


O.k. Everybody, I have spoken to the IMCA member who tried selling me
the NWA 001, after i confirmed with Adam Hupe and Dean Bessey and
several other people who know a lot about this meteorite and i knew
for certain it was practically impossible to have a "half stone" of
NWA 001 that weighed 16 grams i went ahead and i confronted this IMCA
member. It turns out that he apparently "misread" the label and it
was not NWA 001 but that it was NWA 010. This is the second critical
error this IMCA member has made. The first major error was when i
ordered a .76 gram of lunar meteorite from him. He sent me a .23 gram
piece instead of what i had paid for and i sent it back to him for a
refund. His excuse was that his scale might of been off, but if that
is the case then why was this item listed on ebay several times and
one of the times it actually sold which means the buyer canceled the
transaction and/or returned the item. Then his excuse changed after i
sent him several pictures of the piece weighed on different scales of
mine as i own over 6 scales and showed him the same weight of .23
grams on each scale. His new excuse was that he had two pieces and
mailed me the wrong piece. So then i said o.k. no problem mail me the
right piece and then he came up with another excuse stating that he is
not sure where the bigger piece is because his son took it. So after
i mailed him back the item for a refund is when he tried to sell me
the NWA 001 instead of the refund which i became suspicious of when he
stated it was a half stone and only after did i confront him about it
did he tell me he made a mistake in reading the label. Two critical
errors in a row made by an IMCA member makes me wonder a lot of
things. I have recieved several emails asking about who this person
is and it seems that all the people who are emailing already suspected
somebody and they all suspect the same person. I do not want to give
his name in a public format because i do not want to cause any
problems for this person and maybe both times his mistake were honest
mistakes. I have been selling and buying meteorite and meteorite
related material for many years and I have never made such critical
errors let alone twice in a row I have always been honest and double
check everything i sell to make sure problems like this don't happen.
I feel this member has behaved very carelessly and even if these
mistakes where of an honest nature i think i never want to deal with
them again. I am sorry that this experience has made me question the
validity of IMCA logo's and i will be extra careful in the future when
buying anything from anybody i don't know whether they are an IMCA
member or not, one of the best dealers i know isn't an IMCA member and
i never had any problems with him... I hope nobody has to go through
the same experience i am going through right now just because somebody
doesn't pay close attention to what they are doing when conducting
business. Like i said there is a small chance that fraud was involved
but even if these were honest mistakes they are unacceptable according
to my standards and the way i do business. Rest assured anybody out
there who deals with me i would never make such mistakes and I always
take the up-most care to ensure that what you buy from me is as
described and authentic and i double check everything before i ship it
out and i think everybody who deals with meteorites should do the same
thing.
Daniel Furlan
collector and dealer
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