[meteorite-list] regarding post of NWA 001 question PLUS careless IMCA member

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:47:54 -0500
Message-ID: <SNT102-W564F0251473B6928A858E7A26B0_at_phx.gbl>

I can't believe I read the whole thing.
 
Bill

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> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:36:30 -0400
> From: danfurlan at gmail.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] regarding post of NWA 001 question PLUS careless IMCA member
>
> O.k. Everybody, I have spoken to the IMCA member who tried selling me
> the NWA 001, after i confirmed with Adam Hupe and Dean Bessey and
> several other people who know a lot about this meteorite and i knew
> for certain it was practically impossible to have a "half stone" of
> NWA 001 that weighed 16 grams i went ahead and i confronted this IMCA
> member. It turns out that he apparently "misread" the label and it
> was not NWA 001 but that it was NWA 010. This is the second critical
> error this IMCA member has made. The first major error was when i
> ordered a .76 gram of lunar meteorite from him. He sent me a .23 gram
> piece instead of what i had paid for and i sent it back to him for a
> refund. His excuse was that his scale might of been off, but if that
> is the case then why was this item listed on ebay several times and
> one of the times it actually sold which means the buyer canceled the
> transaction and/or returned the item. Then his excuse changed after i
> sent him several pictures of the piece weighed on different scales of
> mine as i own over 6 scales and showed him the same weight of .23
> grams on each scale. His new excuse was that he had two pieces and
> mailed me the wrong piece. So then i said o.k. no problem mail me the
> right piece and then he came up with another excuse stating that he is
> not sure where the bigger piece is because his son took it. So after
> i mailed him back the item for a refund is when he tried to sell me
> the NWA 001 instead of the refund which i became suspicious of when he
> stated it was a half stone and only after did i confront him about it
> did he tell me he made a mistake in reading the label. Two critical
> errors in a row made by an IMCA member makes me wonder a lot of
> things. I have recieved several emails asking about who this person
> is and it seems that all the people who are emailing already suspected
> somebody and they all suspect the same person. I do not want to give
> his name in a public format because i do not want to cause any
> problems for this person and maybe both times his mistake were honest
> mistakes. I have been selling and buying meteorite and meteorite
> related material for many years and I have never made such critical
> errors let alone twice in a row I have always been honest and double
> check everything i sell to make sure problems like this don't happen.
> I feel this member has behaved very carelessly and even if these
> mistakes where of an honest nature i think i never want to deal with
> them again. I am sorry that this experience has made me question the
> validity of IMCA logo's and i will be extra careful in the future when
> buying anything from anybody i don't know whether they are an IMCA
> member or not, one of the best dealers i know isn't an IMCA member and
> i never had any problems with him... I hope nobody has to go through
> the same experience i am going through right now just because somebody
> doesn't pay close attention to what they are doing when conducting
> business. Like i said there is a small chance that fraud was involved
> but even if these were honest mistakes they are unacceptable according
> to my standards and the way i do business. Rest assured anybody out
> there who deals with me i would never make such mistakes and I always
> take the up-most care to ensure that what you buy from me is as
> described and authentic and i double check everything before i ship it
> out and i think everybody who deals with meteorites should do the same
> thing.
> Daniel Furlan
> collector and dealer
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Received on Tue 14 Jun 2011 10:47:54 PM PDT