[meteorite-list] NWA 6709 - iridescence

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:38:52 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW9ug0J9OON1TMAv7eTRm1ZZ0N5wQW96qO+wWH9jp_K4eA_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 7/21/11, James Baxter <jbaxter112 at pol.net> wrote:
> Pure speculation but my guess is that the rainbow sheen comes from
> refraction due to some fine layering of material on the surface. In the case
> of fresh unweathered falls it is almost certainly a phenomenon related to
> the crust formation itself but one could imagine weathering causing a
> similar effect due to thin layers of oxide or other weathering product.
>
> So maybe similar effect with two different causes??
>
> In Martin and Stefans' case, seems more likely to be a primary crust related
> finding in a minimally weathered desert find rather than due to weathering,
> but again just speculation
>
> Jim Baxter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Fries" <mfries8 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:47:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling & sensational
> Howardite - NWA 6709 - iridescence
>
> That brings up a good question, then - is this iridescence the result of
> weathering, or does it come from heating?  Either could cause mild
> oxidation.  I had assumed that the iridescence I saw in basalts came
> from weathering, but perhaps it was a consequence of heating.  Basalt
> gets plenty hot.  :-)  I like this discussion.  Thoughts?
>
> On 7/21/11 10:12 AM, James Baxter wrote:
>> There is sometimes a similar though less dramatic iridescence on the crust
>> of newly fallen ordinaary chondrites that have not been exposed to
>> significant weathering.
>>
>> Jim Baxter
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marc Fries"<mfries8 at hotmail.com>
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:53:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling&  sensational
>> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
>>
>> Mild oxidation of silicate glass (fusion crust in this case) can produce
>> a rainbow effect, too.  I've seen this in basalts in the field. I think
>> it is from a sheen of iron oxides created as the iron and/or sulfide
>> weathers out.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marc Fries
>>
>> On 7/21/11 1:13 AM, Aubrey Whymark wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The rainbow colour looks like oil to me. Maybe someone has used oil or
>>> WD40 to clean it. I sometimes encounter 'rainbow' tektites and the guys
>>> want extra because of it - in reality it is due to oil contamination,
>>> probably from the mining operations.
>>>
>>> Regards, Aubrey
>>> www.tektites.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 21/7/11, Martin Altmann<altmann at meteorite-martin.de>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Martin Altmann<altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling&   sensational
>>>> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 0:33
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> no worries, neither we understood it like that.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if one looks to the photos, the first idea,
>>>> which comes to one's
>>>> mind is: oil.
>>>> No idea, what causes this effect, maybe the composition.
>>>> Also that strange
>>>> tint the cut faces reveal.
>>>>
>>>> And especially worrying is the variety of the odd
>>>> inclusions. I mean
>>>> normally we all get already excited, whenever we find a
>>>> carbonaceous
>>>> fragment in a howardite,
>>>> but what that stone has all for strange clasts - that is
>>>> really not normal
>>>> anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Since 1999 Stefan is in Morocco and since then we certainly
>>>> had quite a
>>>> bunch of materials in our hands,
>>>> but such a weird polymict one - extremely unusual.
>>>>
>>>> And it seems that many collectors feel the same, if after
>>>> such a short time
>>>> now only three slices are left.
>>>>
>>>> Now all of the smaller ones are gone, sorry for that. But
>>>> we have still a
>>>> slice left, which we could subdivide into small partslices,
>>>> if desired - but
>>>> for that one has really to raise his finger.
>>>>
>>>> For the moment!
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>>>> Im Auftrag von Galactic
>>>> Stone&   Ironworks
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 00:48
>>>> An: Chladnis Heirs
>>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling
>>>> &   sensational
>>>> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> I didn't mean to impeach the meteorite, I was just
>>>> curious.
>>>>
>>>> This is indeed a mystery.  Have any scientists offered
>>>> or agreed to
>>>> look at it?  Perhaps hit the rainbow area with the
>>>> microprobe or SEM?
>>>>
>>>> Aesthetically speaking, it's gorgeous and looks like Mother
>>>> of Pearl.  :)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> MikeG
>>>>
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>>>> On 7/20/11, Chladnis Heirs<news at chladnis-heirs.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> No, it's natural!
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Galactic Stone&   Ironworks [mailto:meteoritemike at gmail.com]
>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 23:24
>>>>> An: Chladnis Heirs
>>>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly
>>>> baffling&   sensational
>>>>> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very
>>>> fresh.
>>>>> Wow!  That is one of the most beautiful
>>>> howardites I have ever seen.
>>>>> Nice find.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>> The rainbox coloration is very odd.  Was the
>>>> stone cleaned at any time?
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/20/11, Chladnis Heirs<news at chladnis-heirs.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear meteorite community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with this Special we have to introduce to you an
>>>> enormous oddity.
>>>>>> It is about a HED-meteorite of a kind, which we
>>>> hadn't ever seen before
>>>> in
>>>>>> our careers before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It came in two stones, one of them was covered
>>>> with a lush fusion crust,
>>>>>> wonderfully structured by thick and oriented
>>>> flowlines.
>>>>>> And in some parts, that very crust displayed a
>>>> gloss and a shine,
>>>>> iridescent
>>>>>> in all colours of the rainbow;
>>>>>> an effect, reminding almost to bismuth!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please take a look to the photos, where we tried
>>>> to captured the effect:
>>>>>> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/new-meteorites/nwa6709.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The interior was no less a riddle for us.
>>>>>> The distribution and sizes of the various
>>>> fragments and clasts were
>>>> unlike
>>>>>> we had seen in any polymict HED before.
>>>>>> A variety of clasts is of a kind, like we never
>>>> had recovered in any
>>>> Vesta
>>>>>> meteorite. Please take a closer look to the slices
>>>> and you will share our
>>>>>> surprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a very few of these clasts develope due to
>>>> their microscopically
>>>>>> lamellae-texture a fire like an opal, if turned
>>>> around in the light.
>>>>>> The response to a magnet is very inhomogeneous
>>>> within the slices,
>>>>>> although no differences are visible to the eye
>>>>>> and all in all the interior has a somewhat dull
>>>> yellowish tint - although
>>>>>> the material is very fresh - and that tint and the
>>>> circumstances made us
>>>>>> initially think, it might be diogenitic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is under classification at Dr. Anthony Irving
>>>> and the values say, that
>>>>> it
>>>>>> is a shocked howardite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We crafted now a set of polished sliced of all
>>>> sizes, to share this
>>>>>> exceptional material with you.
>>>>>> Please acknowledge that we have kept the price,
>>>> despite of the for us so
>>>>>> unique properties of the material, well
>>>> affordable,
>>>>>> for everybody staying able to add a specimen of
>>>> this truly exceptional
>>>>> stone
>>>>>> to his collection.
>>>>>> And an addition it is, also for the most
>>>> experienced veteran collector.
>>>>>> Earlier today we had published the Special in the
>>>> German forum, therefore
>>>>>> not so many specimens are left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the largest slice we can offer a discount as
>>>> it is the only one,
>>>> which
>>>>>> isn't coplanar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And finally, the specimen named "piece #2", which
>>>> we chose to illustrate
>>>>>> best that rainbow-bismuth-gloss of the fusion
>>>> crust on the first linked
>>>>>> page, is available too. It weighs 119.2g and we're
>>>> accepting offers.
>>>>>> Here you are now:
>>>>>> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/specials/special-nwa6709.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Stefan&   Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chladni's Heirs
>>>>>> Munich - Berlin
>>>>>> Fine Meteorites for Science&   Collectors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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