[meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling & sensational Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:09:40 +0200
Message-ID: <003901cc479f$11ffa300$35fee900$_at_de>

Hi Aubrey,

yes a striking effect, isn't it.
That the stones were manipulated, we can categorically rule out.
The material was from alone fresh enough, that nobody would get the idea to
manipulate it, the chatoyant effect of the crust is visible in some places,
but not over the whole crust, the material below the crust, visible in
places where chips are missing as well as in the second stone, which was a
fragment, is unaltered, very fresh and not discolored. And the stones stem
from a serious source.

Of course we observed also at some shows, that here and there, but all in
all quite seldomly "junk" meteorites are artificially coloured and blackened
to raise an impression, that they would be fresher and not so strongly
weathered, but that is very easy detectable by the morphology of the surface
- and sometimes even more quickly by the smell of the stones (and anyway
such manipulations you won't find at the reliable and serious Moroccan
colleagues.)

And meanwhile, I would almost dare to say, that in the NWA-field we are
old-stagers of a certain experience.
(Stefan is regularly in Morocco since 1999).

Best,
Martin



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Aubrey
Whymark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 10:14
An: meteorite list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling & sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.


Hi

The rainbow colour looks like oil to me. Maybe someone has used oil or WD40
to clean it. I sometimes encounter 'rainbow' tektites and the guys want
extra because of it - in reality it is due to oil contamination, probably
from the mining operations.

Regards, Aubrey
www.tektites.co.uk



--- On Thu, 21/7/11, Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> wrote:

> From: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling & sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 0:33
> Hi Mike,
>
> no worries, neither we understood it like that.
>
> Of course, if one looks to the photos, the first idea,
> which comes to one's
> mind is: oil.
> No idea, what causes this effect, maybe the composition.
> Also that strange
> tint the cut faces reveal.
>
> And especially worrying is the variety of the odd
> inclusions. I mean
> normally we all get already excited, whenever we find a
> carbonaceous
> fragment in a howardite,
> but what that stone has all for strange clasts - that is
> really not normal
> anymore.
>
> Since 1999 Stefan is in Morocco and since then we certainly
> had quite a
> bunch of materials in our hands,
> but such a weird polymict one - extremely unusual.
>
> And it seems that many collectors feel the same, if after
> such a short time
> now only three slices are left.
>
> Now all of the smaller ones are gone, sorry for that. But
> we have still a
> slice left, which we could subdivide into small partslices,
> if desired - but
> for that one has really to raise his finger.
>
> For the moment!
> Martin
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> Im Auftrag von Galactic
> Stone & Ironworks
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 00:48
> An: Chladnis Heirs
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling
> & sensational
> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> I didn't mean to impeach the meteorite, I was just
> curious.
>
> This is indeed a mystery.? Have any scientists offered
> or agreed to
> look at it?? Perhaps hit the rainbow area with the
> microprobe or SEM?
>
> Aesthetically speaking, it's gorgeous and looks like Mother
> of Pearl.? :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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> On 7/20/11, Chladnis Heirs <news at chladnis-heirs.com>
> wrote:
> > No, it's natural!
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Galactic Stone & Ironworks [mailto:meteoritemike at gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 23:24
> > An: Chladnis Heirs
> > Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly
> baffling & sensational
> > Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very
> fresh.
> >
> > Wow!? That is one of the most beautiful
> howardites I have ever seen.
> > Nice find.? :)
> >
> > The rainbox coloration is very odd.? Was the
> stone cleaned at any time?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > MikeG
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > On 7/20/11, Chladnis Heirs <news at chladnis-heirs.com>
> wrote:
> >> Dear meteorite community,
> >>
> >> with this Special we have to introduce to you an
> enormous oddity.
> >> It is about a HED-meteorite of a kind, which we
> hadn't ever seen before
> in
> >> our careers before.
> >>
> >> It came in two stones, one of them was covered
> with a lush fusion crust,
> >> wonderfully structured by thick and oriented
> flowlines.
> >> And in some parts, that very crust displayed a
> gloss and a shine,
> > iridescent
> >> in all colours of the rainbow;
> >> an effect, reminding almost to bismuth!
> >>
> >> Please take a look to the photos, where we tried
> to captured the effect:
> >> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/new-meteorites/nwa6709.html
> >>
> >>
> >> The interior was no less a riddle for us.
> >> The distribution and sizes of the various
> fragments and clasts were
> unlike
> >> we had seen in any polymict HED before.
> >> A variety of clasts is of a kind, like we never
> had recovered in any
> Vesta
> >> meteorite. Please take a closer look to the slices
> and you will share our
> >> surprise.
> >>
> >> And a very few of these clasts develope due to
> their microscopically
> >> lamellae-texture a fire like an opal, if turned
> around in the light.
> >> The response to a magnet is very inhomogeneous
> within the slices,
> >> although no differences are visible to the eye
> >> and all in all the interior has a somewhat dull
> yellowish tint - although
> >> the material is very fresh - and that tint and the
> circumstances made us
> >> initially think, it might be diogenitic.
> >>
> >> It is under classification at Dr. Anthony Irving
> and the values say, that
> > it
> >> is a shocked howardite.
> >>
> >> We crafted now a set of polished sliced of all
> sizes, to share this
> >> exceptional material with you.
> >> Please acknowledge that we have kept the price,
> despite of the for us so
> >> unique properties of the material, well
> affordable,
> >> for everybody staying able to add a specimen of
> this truly exceptional
> > stone
> >> to his collection.
> >> And an addition it is, also for the most
> experienced veteran collector.
> >>
> >> Earlier today we had published the Special in the
> German forum, therefore
> >> not so many specimens are left.
> >>
> >> For the largest slice we can offer a discount as
> it is the only one,
> which
> >> isn't coplanar.
> >>
> >> And finally, the specimen named "piece #2", which
> we chose to illustrate
> >> best that rainbow-bismuth-gloss of the fusion
> crust on the first linked
> >> page, is available too. It weighs 119.2g and we're
> accepting offers.
> >>
> >> Here you are now:
> >> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/specials/special-nwa6709.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Stefan & Martin
> >>
> >> Chladni's Heirs
> >> Munich - Berlin
> >> Fine Meteorites for Science & Collectors
> >>
> >> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
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