[meteorite-list] Moon Memorabilia Auction + Contact info

From: Richard Montgomery <rickmont_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:33:50 -0700
Message-ID: <BBDF51ABB33B47AB84B1CD01A08CD4B8_at_bosoheadPC>

Doug...summed up in a few words: NYTimes is no longer a NEWSpaper. It
definitely takes a backseat to the tabloids. Fabrication and political
slant is the norm, slanted to a degree reaching far behind their anatomy,
aimed stategically at the ignorant, much the way of the incumbant party
currently parading for the executive branch.




----- Original Message -----
From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Memorabilia Auction + Contact info


> Hi Mike, I'd just leave this one alone and pick a more meaningful
> alternate since unfortunately there is no shortage of damning rumors out
> there and no organized meteorite enthusiast defense force. The NYT has
> become a real fish-wrapper and bird-cage liner which is sad to me
> considering I used to think it was untouchably awesome and actually paid
> for a long-distance subscription.
>
> Anything you tell them doubtfully would cast in a good light it seems, and
> will likely be flamed and used for more inaccurate sensationalism in their
> hope to sell more newspapers. The writer and his editor have simply
> decided it is convenient to hassle collectors and perpetuate antiquated
> stereotypes that are mostly based upon ignorant views of their own.
>
> What more could you expect from a newspaper that has been in a
> meteoric-dive, publishing its own obituary, and couldn't reasonably even
> get domestic funding to keep their vision in orbit? (They had to pay 14%
> on a quarter of a billion dollar loan made from Mexico), and are currently
> saddled with it doing anything they can to pay it back. On a fair weather
> day, the press is a challenge; in their foul condition IMO the best bet is
> to ignore them and eventually they will lose their reputation for quality
> since the problem isn't limited to meteorite/space stuff, it is
> slikensided throughout their financially vesiculated wormwood matrix and
> friable, contracting universe.
>
> "... and you'll be damned if you do ... and you'll be damned if you
> don't."
> --anon.
>
> Best wishes
> Doug
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum
> <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 6:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Memorabilia Auction + Contact info
>
>
> The only thing the NYT editor and that horrible writer deserve to
> receive is a subpoena informing them of a class-action lawsuit for
> defamation and slander on the behalf of the meteorite community.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/11, Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here we go again!
>>
>> Alright, anyone who wants to write a letter to the editor, follow
>> these instructions and email letters at nytimes.com
>> https://myaccount.nytimes.com/membercenter/feedback.html
>>
>> Also, here's useful contact information if you have problems with
>> something printed:
>>
>> The Times welcomes comments and suggestions, or complaints about
>> errors that warrant correction. Messages on news coverage can be
>> e-mailed to nytnews at nytimes.com or left toll-free at 1-888-NYT-NEWS
>> (1-888-698-6397 ). Comments on editorials may be e-mailed to
>> letters at nytimes.com or faxed to (212) 556-3622 .
>>
>> Readers dissatisfied with a response or concerned about the paper's
>> journalistic integrity may reach the public editor at
>> public at nytimes.com or (212) 556-7652 .
>>
>>
>> - Yinan
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:09 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum
>> <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> We'll see how this one goes:
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/science/space/10moon.html?_r=1&hp
>>>
>>> Shreds of Moon History on the Block
>>> By DOUGLAS QUENQUA
>>> Published: July 9, 2011
>>> a.. Recommend
>>> b.. Twitter
>>> c.. Sign In to E-Mail
>>> d.. Print
>>> e..
>>> Reprints
>>> a.. ShareClose
>>> a.. Linkedin
>>> b.. Digg
>>> c.. MySpace
>>> d.. Permalink
>>> e..
>>>
>>> It was two weeks before the liftoff of the Apollo 11 mission when
> Thomas
>>> Moser's boss walked into his office at NASA and announced, "We're
> putting
>>> a
>>> flag on the moon."
>>>
>>> Enlarge This Image
>>>
>>> Goldberg Coins and Collectibles
>>> At bottom, remnants of the American flag that went to the moon,
> signed by
>>> Mr. Armstrong, are expected to bring $100,000 at auction.
>>>
>>> Enlarge This Image
>>>
>>> NASA
>>> Buzz Aldrin in a photograph taken by Neil Armstrong.
>>>
>>> Mr. Moser, then a 30-year-old mechanical engineer, was put in charge
> of
>>> designing a flag mechanism that could not only fit into the lunar
> module
>>> and
>>> survive the flight, but also make the flag appear to fly on the
> windless
>>> moon.
>>>
>>> His solution involved two sections of a staff, a telescoping tube
> and a
>>> nylon flag bought at a local housing goods store (Sears, he thinks).
> But
>>> in
>>> order for the flag to fit the staff, its edges needed to be trimmed.
> "They
>>> were throwing it all in the trash," Mr. Moser recalled of the
> remnants in
>>> a
>>> recent interview, "so I picked it up out of the trash can, mounted
> it and
>>> had Neil Armstrong sign it."
>>>
>>> Forty-two years later, Mr. Moser is auctioning off those flag
> remnants.
>>> The
>>> expected selling price: $100,000.
>>>
>>> "There's so much attention on the manned space program right now
> that the
>>> timing may be good," Mr. Moser said, referring to the final
> launching of
>>> the
>>> space shuttle Atlantis on Friday.
>>>
>>> Mr. Moser's flag shreds are the star lot of an extensive space
> memorabilia
>>> auction being held in Beverly Hills, Calif., on Sunday. Other notable
>>> items
>>> include the astronaut Deke Slayton's handwritten training notes from
> the
>>> Mercury program and dozens of heat shields, crew patches and other
>>> ephemera
>>> that once transcended earthly bounds.
>>>
>>> For collectors, the remnants of the space flag are "comparable to a
> Betsy
>>> Ross flag or the flag flying over the port in Baltimore in 1812,"
> said
>>> Michael Orenstein, who is overseeing the auction for Goldberg Coins
> and
>>> Collectibles. Two days before the auction, online pre-bidding for
> the lot
>>> had reached $49,999.
>>>
>>> But trading in space nostalgia can be a dangerous business. In June,
>>> investigators confiscated a triangular nub of transparent tape an
> eighth
>>> of
>>> an inch wide from an auction house in St. Louis because it contained
> tiny
>>> particles of moon dust. Selling moon rocks, no matter how small, is
>>> illegal,
>>> as is selling NASA property that the agency has not willingly
> disposed of.
>>>
>>> Mr. Orenstein said that his auction contained no moon particles, and
> that
>>> all NASA property in the sale had been discarded by the agency long
> ago. A
>>> NASA spokesman declined to comment on the status of the items.
>>>
>>> There are also economic concerns. The collectibles market tends to
> follow
>>> the overall economy; when money is tight, even avid collectors are
> less
>>> likely to spend money on memorabilia. But Mr. Orenstein said he
> believed
>>> that rule did not apply to one-of-a-kind items like the flag
> remnants.
>>> "Just
>>> give me two flag collectors who can't live without it," he said.
>>>
>>> As for Mr. Moser, he does not plan to attend the auction, but he was
> at
>>> Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Friday to watch the Atlantis lift
> off.
>>> "I
>>> spent most of my life developing the shuttle," said Mr. Moser, who
> retired
>>> from NASA in 1989 after 25 years with the agency. "I was there from
> sketch
>>> pad to launch pad."
>>>
>>> A version of this article appeared in print on July 10, 2011, on
> page A15
>>> of
>>> the New York edition with the headline: Shreds of History, Going on
> the
>>> Block.
>>>
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