[meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut

From: Mark Ford <mark.ford_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:58:56 +0000
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* someone in the whitehouse really needs to take a good look east).

Opps typo


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From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ford
Sent: 04 July 2011 16:57
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut


Couldn't agree more and i'm not even American! (It saddens me to see the US slowly sliding ever downward, someone in the whitehouse really needs to take a good east).

I never thought I would see the loss of US manned space flight in my lifetime, yet at the end of this week that will be it!

Wonder if all the meteorite museum trades will be in question if they started chasing all ex Nasa/Government material - one wonders where it would end, which is why its lunacy, (and probably the result of Lawyers and pen pushers taking over from where intelligent scientists, engineers and good people once stood...)

Mark


 
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From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer
Sent: 04 July 2011 15:26
To: MexicoDoug
Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut

Hi Doug and List,

Happy Fourth of July to our astronauts who are being harassed for
having garage sales!

What an absolute waste of taxpayer money and manpower (again).

At what point did our government go an Syd Barrett acid trip and not come back?

This kind of thing sickens me. It makes me ashamed to be associated
in any way with our mentally-defective government.

Has all common sense and decency gone out the window in this day of
lawsuits and ignorance?

The elites and their sycophants don't care that people are losing
their homes, going hungry, and going without medical care in this
country. But yet we can piss away vast sums of money to investigate,
harass, and prosecute people for selling dusty swatches of tape and
old obsolete cameras. It's friggin disgusting.

I've been saying this for 20 years and now the people are finally
catching up with what I have been saying - this government needs to be
replaced from the ground up. It's broken, it's been co-opted by
megalomaniac elitists, and the fed is being used as a tool to oppress
the people. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves
over 1000 things, and now this campaign of astronaut harassment makes
it 1001 things.

What message does this send to science-inspired youngsters who might
pursue a career in the space program? ---> "Hey kids! You'll retire
poor and your pension won't cover your basic expenses, so when you try
to have a garage sale, you'll be harassed for it and threatened with
criminal charges so we can prevent the spread of dirty tape and
obsolete cameras! God Bless America!"

I really need to stop reading or answering these posts before my
coffee kicks in. Is my vitriol running too freely this morning? LOL

Best regards and best of luck to our HERO astronauts,

MikeG


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On 7/4/11, MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com> wrote:
> http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90053154?U.S.%20government%20sues%20former%20astronaut%20over%20lunar%20camera#ixzz1R7PMDp3p
>
> Dear list,
>
> This is a very relevant case to meteorites and should not be taken
> lightly.
>
> They're at it again ... rewriting history and after 40 years of NASA's
> permission to take mementos from the Apollo era - now suing the sixth
> man to walk on the moon, Edgar Mitchell of Apollo 11, for trying to
> sell the camera they allowed him to have ... the precedent, I suspect
> is the identical one to the dust on the tape, which didn't exist, but
> they are gunning for now.
>
> Again, we are faced with the erosion of sensible property rights, a
> violation of traditional English and Roman law regarding the importance
> of possession IMO, in an effort to legislation effort from the bench at
> its finest (sarcasm). The question at hand: Can we apply today's
> standards retroactively to say NASA was wrong to allow astronauts to
> have things that were of no use to NASA at the time and with the full
> knowledge of NASA allowed to be kept by those involved. After 40 years
> of knowledge that the astronaut possessed this camera and other sundry
> things, it becomes a precedent, and NASA is even painting an American
> hero with a scarlet letter of "T" for "Thief"....
>
> From the article:
>
> "During the Apollo mission era, Mitchell said he and other astronauts
> got permission to take mementos from the spacecrafts. "We have dozens
> of pieces. All of us who flew to the moon," he said in a Palm Beach
> Post report.
>
> Mitchell's lawyer, Donald Jacobson, said, "Objects from the lunar trips
> to the moon were ultimately mounted and then presented to the
> astronauts as a gift after they had helped NASA on a mission."
>
> The government is asking the court to order Mitchell to hand over the
> camera, and declare that it has "good, clean and exclusive title" to
> the piece of space history.
>
>
> Best wishes
> Doug
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