[meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay

From: Count Deiro <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:12:10 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Message-ID: <32729873.1294027931092.JavaMail.root_at_elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello List and Associates,

Some of us who sell and buy at auction have just fought off an expensive attack by an unscrupulous pseudo-bidder. It's unnerving to realize someone is out there in cyberspace intent on, at the least, harming us financially. Worse, he has succeeded, knowingly or not, in promoting cyancisim amongst us.. Like lions in a cage that have been prodded with a stick, we whirl and snarl and bite at every threat real, or imagined.

I'm sure gentleman Geoff understands what's going on and forgives the overspray.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Merchant <dmerchan at rochester.rr.com>
>Sent: Jan 2, 2011 5:42 PM
>To: GREG LINDH <geeg48 at msn.com>, eric at meteoritesusa.com
>Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
>
>Hi List. I apologize as Greg did that I too did not realize it was Geoff's
>auction...My deepest and sincere apologies to Geoff and List as I assumed it
>was a listing by someone else. Shame on me for not reading past my nose!
>Sincerely
>Don Merchant
>IMCA #0960
>Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
>http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "GREG LINDH" <geeg48 at msn.com>
>To: <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
>Cc: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
>
>
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> My mistake. I didn't notice that it was Geoff. Had I noticed, I would
>> not have even posted.
>>
>>
>> Greg L.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:00:25 -0800
>>> From: eric at meteoritesusa.com
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
>>>
>>> Hey Don, Greg, Did you even bother looking at who's auction this is? Do
>>> you realize that the Met-List is a PUBLIC forum? Not just in your email
>>> box...
>>>
>>> Maybe you don't mean to associate a reputable member of this communbity
>>> with the practices you mention, but your statements can be seriously
>>> misinterpreted by others. Perhaps showing some thoughtful intelligent
>>> restraint is a good thing here instead of being overly suspicious by
>>> pointing out probably completely unrelated circumstances which could
>>> cause an automatic and mistaken association with one of our communities
>>> most reputable dealers.
>>>
>>> It's probably just and overly zealous and extremely excited
>>> inexperienced bidder.
>>>
>>> Don't forget, this auction is for an extremely exquisite, flight
>>> oriented, rollover lipped, beautifully fusion crusted meteorite, being
>>> offered by none of than the world famous Geoff Notkin of the Meteorite
>>> Men.
>>>
>>> Naaa... That couldn't possibly be the reason it's got such high bids.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/2/2011 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH wrote:
>>> > An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff.
>>> >
>>> > Wow, there's a shocker.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Greg L.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From: dmerchan at rochester.rr.com
>>> >> To: fujmon at mac.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> >> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500
>>> >> CC: dmerchan at rochester.rr.com
>>> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
>>> >>
>>> >> The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids
>>> >> on one
>>> >> item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid
>>> >> rigging
>>> >> is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my
>>> >> guard up.
>>> >> Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise
>>> >> me
>>> >> that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I
>>> >> would
>>> >> retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong
>>> >> on all
>>> >> this but I have seen this game before on several occasions.
>>> >> Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested
>>> >> and
>>> >> charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were
>>> >> lower
>>> >> then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to
>>> >> do this
>>> >> bidding rigging!
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html
>>> >>
>>> >> Sincerely
>>> >> Don Merchant
>>> >> IMCA #0960
>>> >> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
>>> >> http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Gary Fujihara"
>>> >> To: "MeteorList"
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM
>>> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=170585023324
>>> >>>
>>> >>> current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5
>>> >>> chondrite
>>> >>>
>>> >>> granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation
>>> >>> of an
>>> >>> OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new'
>>> >>> guy
>>> >>> has 0 feedback.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gary Fujihara
>>> >>> Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
>>> >>> 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
>>> >>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
>>> >>> http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html
>>> >>> (808) 640-9161
>>> >>>
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