[meteorite-list] EETA 79001 and the Martian Atmosphere
From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:31:06 +1100 Message-ID: <C87D0AACCE1E48D191618242A899F118_at_JeffPC> It's been quite a few years since I've looked up close at this piece but here's a Ureilite with something similar. http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2624.html Cheers, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net> To: <cdtucson at cox.net>; "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EETA 79001 and the Martian Atmosphere > Hi List. (Sorry if this is a duplicate post.) I have the remnants of a > 550gr Brahin slice that definitely has bubbles in the olivine in a few > spots. Any comments? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cdtucson at cox.net> > To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EETA 79001 and the Martian Atmosphere > > >> Martin,List, >> Interesting that you mention bubbles in Maskelynite. >> I have a great picture taken by Tom Phillips of an amazing "River Of >> Maskelynite With Bubbles" >> Although this is from an unclassified meteorite it does check out pretty >> well both visually in thin section but, the chemistry is also correct for >> either a Lunar or a Martian meteorite, >> I'm sure Blain won't mind me mentioning that; >> At this Tucson Gem Show Blain Reed has acquired an amazing piece of >> hardware. >> It is called an XRF for X-ray Florescence. This is a hand held portable >> gun like instrument that when held up to the rock gives you an average of >> the chemistry it sniffs out of the rock. >> Blain was kind enough to use this machine to collect reading from known >> Lunar rocks in his collection (this way he knows they are in fact >> Lunar's) With this info he can compare the Known data with new >> Candidates. This for a small fee and it only takes about a minute. >> AMAZING . Blain rocks. >> In this way he has determined that this rock I show here with the "river >> Of Maskelynite and Bubbles" has a very good chance at being either Lunar >> of Martian. Apparently they are quite similar in this way. >> Although, The Numbers are dead on Lunar for this one. . >> Not only are the bulk amounts correct but so, are the Ratios. Especially >> the Fe/ Mn and so forth. >> Please see the attached pics and share your opinion. >> Any Scientists out there want to take a look? >> I also have another that Tom Phillips photographed that also checks out >> both Chemically and petrographically as Lunar or Martian but, with no >> visible river yet? It looks like mostly Olivine? But this ones Fe/Mn is >> definitely in the Martian Range. Very Cool. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030472 at N07/?saved=1 >> >> Any and all comments welcome. >> Email for more pics. >> Best regards, >> Carl >> Carl or Debbie Esparza >> Meteoritemax >> >> >> ---- Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> wrote: >>> Hi Walter, >>> >>> only a remark... for not being the same thing like with the ominous >>> purple >>> halite-crystals containing liquid water in Zag, >>> which are described in literature - but so far noooooone of the >>> collectors >>> ever found one in any of their 175kgs of slices... :-) >>> >>> Those inclusions in the Martian shock glasses - you can really have them >>> as >>> a collector too!! >>> >>> The fresh-shergottite-series - NWA 2975/2986/4766 seq.. >>> there the maskelynite is still so fresh, that it is translucent. >>> So it's possible without special equipment and special preparation to >>> spot >>> these inclusions in the maskelynite with a simple microscope under low >>> magnification in cut surfaces. >>> >>> And you know what? Here and there these maskelynite patches contain >>> little >>> bubbles! >>> >>> A while ago a collector loaded up a photo he made from such a bubble out >>> of >>> that NWA-series in the German forum. >>> >>> Fascinating isn't it? >>> >>> So, dear collectors, I'm sure many of you have samples form that >>> Martian, >>> let's hunt for bubbles! >>> >>> >>> Best! >>> Martin >>> >>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com >>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von >>> Walter >>> Branch >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2011 04:31 >>> An: MeteorList >>> Betreff: [meteorite-list] EETA 79001 and the Martian Atmosphere >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I feel like an idiot. >>> >>> I know that trapped atmospheric gases have been found in some martian >>> meteorites but for some unexplained reason, I had always thought that >>> the >>> gases had been incorporated in the rock at the time of formation. I >>> always >>> wondered how gases from the martian atmosphere could have been trapped >>> in a >>> rock at the time it formed, particularly an igneous rock in an >>> underground >>> magma chamber. >>> >>> Well, thanks to William Cassidy, the man who founded ANSMET, I now >>> realize >>> my assumption was wrong. Cassidy makes it clear that gasses became >>> trapped >>> in martian rocks at the time of the impact which launched the rock from >>> the >>> surface. The rather lengthy quote below is from Cassidy's book >>> "Meteorites, >>> Ice and Antarctica" an excellent book (see more after the quote). >>> >>> >From pages 119-121 >>> >>> EETA 79001 was an important find for another reason. It contained proof >>> that >>> >>> SNC meteorites come from Mars. This meteorite had been highly shocked >>> during >>> >>> the impact that ejected it from the martian surface, and one of the >>> shock >>> effects was to produce pods of glass that had been melted from the >>> constituent minerals of the meteorite by the transient heating generated >>> by >>> shock pressures. The melts that were formed were partly injected along >>> cracks in the rock and partly retained as molten beads at the sites >>> where >>> they formed. Cooling occurred immediately behind the shock wave and the >>> beads were chilled to glass before they could crystalize. Apparently the >>> crater forming asteroid had built up a lense off compressed atmosphere >>> in >>> front of it during it's lengthy trajectory toward the surface of the >>> planet. >>> >>> When it struck the surface it injected highly compressed air into the >>> target >>> >>> rock, and some of this was trapped in the shock-melted inclusions. We >>> know >>> the composition of the martian atmosphere from measurements made by >>> Viking >>> Landers I and II. When some of the glass inclusions were picked out of >>> EETA >>> 79001 and remelted, the gave up their dissolved gases. These gasses when >>> analyzed and corrected for slight terrestrial contamination, contained >>> nitrogen and carbon dioxide in the same abundances as the atmosphere of >>> Mars; they also had isotopes of argon, neon, , krypton, and xenon in the >>> same abundances as does the martian atmosphere. This neat bit of >>> detective >>> work by a number of workers, for the first time tied a SNC meteorite >>> directly to the planet Mars and, through this meteorite, to all the >>> other >>> meteorites. >>> >>> I love Cassidy's book. If you like meteorites in general, martian and >>> lunar >>> meteorites (like me) and are curious about the ANSMET program and you >>> don't >>> have a copy of this book, you are really missing out. The book is a gold >>> mine of information regarding ANSMET. It is very readable, technical in >>> some >>> >>> places, humorous in others and poignant in others. Some books I love >>> holding >>> >>> and reading and this is one of those books. It is hardbound with glossy >>> pages and nicely illustrated. I like the physical proportion of the book >>> and >>> >>> I even like the dust jacket (I usually abhor dust jackets). >>> >>> Anyway, many thanks to Dr. Cassidy for clearing that up with me and >>> thanks >>> for writing such a wonderful book. >>> >>> -Walter Branch >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Received on Fri 11 Feb 2011 04:31:06 AM PST |
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