[meteorite-list] Polygraph testing legality

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:45:41 -0500
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What if the subject took a tranquilizer like valium before taking the
test? Wouldn't that have some impact on the results?

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On 12/20/11, dave carothers <carothersdl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Polygraph instruments are not meant to "read your mind".  They only measure
> changes to the autonomic nervous system (BP, galvinic skin response, heart
> rate, etc.).  When properly calibrated, the instrument does exactly that.
> You can't beat a peoperly calibrated polygraph instrument.
>
> You can, however, beat/fool the examiner and as Rob already stated, there
> are instances of pathological liars defeating the exam.  Their autonomic
> nervous system doesn't respond like the norm and therefore deception is not
> indicated during the exam questioning.
>
> Merry Christmas everyone!
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Matson, Robert D." <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polygraph testing legality
>
>
>> Rob,
>>
>> There are a few exceptions to the polygraph prohibition.
>>
>> The National Academy of Sciences called the tests "unreliable,
>> unscientific and biased."
>>
>> I don't believe that a machine can read your mind based on your blood
>> pressure, pulse and respiration rates. I wouldn't think too many
>> scientists would believe that. If a machine can really read your mind,
>> then why bother with a trial?
>>
>> Phil Whitmer
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matson, Robert D." <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
>> To: "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>; "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; "Benjamin P. Sun" <bpsun2009 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Polygraph testing legality
>>
>>
>> Phil wrote:
>>
>>> Polygraph testing of employees is against federal law according to the
>>> Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA).
>>
>> Tell that to anyone who works for the CIA, NSA, NRO or any defense
>> contractor on a special-access-required program.  ;-)
>>
>>> Just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure lie detector tests are pure
>>> psuedo-science hokem designed to scare perps into confessing.
>>
>> Under proper conditions, they work quite well against most people.
>> But they can be defeated by pathological liars.  --Rob
>>
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