[meteorite-list] "Al Hagg".. Get it Right.. Finally!

From: Greg Hupé <gmhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:00:34 -0500
Message-ID: <3C4E7084914648C1A28AEF58DFD1CDBD_at_Gregor>

Hi Doug and All,

Doug, not to be blunt, but this entire conversation is an 'Extremely',
'Old', 'Archaic', "Fossil" of a subject that it is almost boring to most of
us... Unless you really understand 'et al'...
The bottom line is, money or not, get the facts corrected before more
collectors continue to buy 'misinformed' Aubrites.. Bottom Line!!!

This is one of those ongoing subjects that one needs to understand before
they step in their own mud...!

Best Regards,
Greg

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-----Original Message-----
From: MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:15 PM
To: joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com ; Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NAwhat'sME (was...Are these meteorites???)

"http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Al_Haggounia.html"

Wow, what a great and insightful page to these stones. Maske one want
to get on a plane and go digging themselves. Does the list have an
opionion of this already or is it one of those things that fell between
the sofa cushions and never got cleaned up?

What is the status of the proposed reclassification in the Bulletin as
an EL3? If it hasn't been done yet can anyone post an opposing view to
keep the aubrite or other classifications alive?

Maybe it hasn't been done because this relict meteorite is being called
a "fossil"? I've heard of fossil living people but fossil meteorites -
please let's not go there! Seems like there is more than one change
being proposed on this page. Best IMO - one thing at a time, leave
that battle for another time.

IMO:

The use of the word 'fossil' for dug up minerals according to this
dictionary is obsolete:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fossil

...but beyond that for any it is extremely confusing to the commercial
side of this especially to innocent buyers and hopefully the IMCA and
other alike groups can regulate this if it sounds reasonable; since it
is generally used to describe for living organisms or structures left
by them, and therefore has associated with it an air of ancient life to
the new collector, and there is no need to evoke this term any more
than 'aubrite' if in fact that doesn't fit. As for 'paleo', it sounds
like a $2 word for $0.06 per gram meteorite as well.

Relict is a perfect term and even has precedence as it has been used
throughout the Chicxulub studies to describe the tektites which in a
similar fasion have been incorporated into sediment.

So after reading the excellent and painstaking work by Drs. Ted Bunch
and A. Irving, one has to wonder where Conan the Barbarian is just to
come in and say:

They are relicts and they are EL3's, further use of any other mentioned
terms is immediately hereby suspended until noticed by the axe-wielding
squad ;-), or an opposing view makes its stand in a peer-reviewed
article.

Kindest wishes
Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: JoshuaTreeMuseum <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 10:19 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these meteorites???




More than 20 pairings?:


The Al Haggounia "Fossil or Paleo" Meteorite Problem:

http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Al_Haggounia.html



Phil Whitmer
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