[meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers

From: Larry Atkins <thetoprok_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <8CE3009A1AC7DA6-1974-5603_at_web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com>

Great job Mike!

What an adventure, just another feather in your cap.. like a Peacock
feather!

I'd like to address the 'value' issue if I may.

Meteorites are worth what someone will pay, period.

Some people will pay great sums for an object that another would
dismiss. I've heard the talk a plenty about whether or not a price is
justified, especially about new falls. If Mike makes a million dollars
on this (which he probably won't,) good for him! Don't forget that
meteorites are one of the rarest things on the planet, and are in my
opinion extremely undervalued in most instances. If people collected
meteorites like they do baseball cards they'd be worth hundreds per
gram for the least desireable of space debris.

  Pay is usually tied to the service performed, the floor sweeper is
making the least because anyone can do his job, etc.. I ask this
question. How many people can you call up to go get you the latest
Meteorite Fall? These guys are NOT in the phone book!

Mike has what I call the "Spirit of The Dog" and deserves to be paid
what someone will pay for his space treasures.


Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
?
IMCA # 1941
Ebay?alienrockfarm
?


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Shawn Alan
<photophlow at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers


Wow, it would sure be nice to ever see that kind of money. Sadly that
is not
even close to reality.
Try it sometime and find out what is involved.
Michael Farmer

PS, why not go for $1000 per gram and net a billion?

--- On Tue, 8/23/11, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 4:54 PM
> Hello Listers
>
> Way to go Mike :) on the recovery of the meteorites from
> the Kenya fall... 11.7kg in total not bad. I did the math
> and if you sold them at $50 a gram across the board thats
> $585,000 even if you sold them at $25 a gram thats $292,500.
> Thats not bad for a few days of work and about $15,000 to
> $20,000 in expense.
>
> I need to change my day job and fly to third world counties
> and buy meteorites from the locals when meteorite falls
> happen.
> I wonder whats the going rate for compensation to the
> locals for ordinary chondrities found by them? And I wonder
> if they know how much they are worth? Cause I bet they can
> be bought for pennys or a few bucks compared to finds in the
> USA or else where in developed countries.
>
> At any rate, will be exciting to see what the
> classification will be and if any new discoveries come from
> this fall.?
> ?
> GOT TO COLLECT THEM ALL
> ?
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> eBaystore
> http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html
>
>
>
>
>
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> Jim Wooddell nf114ec at npgcable.com
> Tue Aug 23 17:48:13 EDT 2011
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> This is from Mike...
>
> Trying to get this to the meteorite list but tried more
> than 30 hours ago
> with no response from Art.
>
> This email is premature due to circumstances out of my
> control sadly.
>
> I am announcing the recovery of over 11.7 kilograms of the
> new Kenya
> meteorite fall from 16 July, 2011.
>
> I saw the news of the fall on 17 July, and purchased a
> ticket to Kenya about
> 4 hours later. I arrived in Kenya on 20 July, and on the
> morning of 21
> July, less than 125 hours after the fall, I had more than a
> kilo in hand.
> Upon arriving at the fall location, I met a guy who knew a
> girl who saw a
> stone land only 5 feet from her in a coffee field while
> working at ~10:30 am
> when the explosions rocked the sky. It was cloudy at the
> fall site so no one
> saw anything, just heard massive explosions and then loud
> whistling and
> sounds that most described as gunfire.
>
> Moments after buying that stone, I went to another house of
> a boy who found
> a 777 gram stone in a coffee field about 30 minutes after
> the fall.
>
> I stayed 9 days in Kenya, purchasing 10.5 kilos of stones,
> including the as
> of now main mass of 3.5 kg. The first stone that was
> reported on the news
> weighs less than 2.5 kg, not 5 kg reported.
>
> Most interesting about this fall is that it also has 3
> seperate
> hammerstones!
>
> First is a househitter that smashed through a metal house
> roof. I paid to
> have the rooftop cut out and purchased several fragments of
> the meteorite,
> including more on this trip.
>
> Second was a stone that weighed more than 350 grams which
> went through the
> roof of a greenhouse, and was witnessed by a man working
> there, it smashed
> into a metal growing table and exploded into hundreds of
> pieces. I have all
> of that one and the plastic hole where it was cut out to be
> patched.
>
> Third is another greenhouse smasher from the same complex,
> found only 3
> days ago by workers moving plants out. It broke into
> several pieces
> virtually all of which Greg Hupe and I recovered. It has
> been subjected to
> high humidity for a month.
>
>
> I have built a strewnfield map of all but 3 pieces, with
> exact locations.
>
> I returned almost two weeks ago for round two with Greg
> Hupe. We were able
> to purchase only an additional 6 stones totalling 1150
> grams.
>
> This fall is not thick, despite intense searching by
> hundreds of people who
> need the money very badly, they have found little.
>
> We hired 25 workers for the last two weeks, working from 8
> am to 6 pm
> scouring the bushland, cornfields, banana plantations, and
> coffee fields,
> without a single recovery from them. I hunted and walked a
> great many miles
> myself with no finds. This was a large fall but seems to be
> very spread out
> and large areas are either not huntable or are under heavy
> cultivation as
> harvest and tilling is going on now.
>
> I have already sold several large pieces of this meteorite,
> I will have some
> for sale, but less than 1 kg.
>
> I will be building a page about it in the next 48 hours as
> I am in London
> now, on my way home. It is already in the lab under study,
> thin sections on
> the way and from my own observations I think this meteorite
> will likely be
> an L4 or 5.
>
> It has no brecciation or veining other than what I suspect
> are some metal
> veins seen from the outside, have cut nothing.
>
> Expect to hear more from me as soon as I get rested up and
> get my site
> ready.
>
> There will be little of this available, mostly small
> fragments, I may have
> one or two larger stones available, 279~ g and 313~ gram
> 100% complete, but
> not cheap!
>
> Expenses were more than $1000 per day not including
> airfare. Nobody works
> for free in Kenya, to get them to move, money had to come
> out.
>
> In their own words " I need to be properly motivated".
> Heard that exact
> phrase more than once.
>
> Michael Farmer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Meteorite Mania!" <meteoritemania at
> gmail.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:04 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers
>
>
>
> > Where is all the talk about the newly recovered Kenya
> fall with
>
> > multiple hammers?
>
> >
>
> > The list should be on fire right now...and where are
> the pictures?
>
> > We're itching to see fresh crust.
>
> >
>
> > Well done Michael, keep up the good work.
>
> >
>
> > Ty
>
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