[meteorite-list] Shirokovsky

From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:15 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW_YY284UY2UNkPYD6+72yWxHHW19WfDF+zi+hiG=D6P0A_at_mail.gmail.com>

Gee Adam, tell us what you really think! LOL ;)

Marcin is right, fraudulent or not, Shiro is now a dubious part of
meteorite collector history. A lot of people were fooled by it,
dropped a small fortune on it, and later were disappointed to find out
it is not meteoritic. If I was one of those early buyers, I would
have a sour opinion of Shiro also.

Putting that aside for a moment, from an aesthetic standpoint, it is
an interesting meteorwrong and if a buyer knowingly wants to acquire a
piece for their meteorwrong collection, then I don't see anything
wrong with it, especially if the original fraudster does not profit
from it. As far as aesthetics go, this pseudo-pallasite sits right on
the shelf next to Plutorano and Mendota - a weird material that
resembles a meteorite but is not. I show it to friends side-by-side
with an etched slice of Brenham and I ask them to pick which one is a
real meteorite. 90% of the time they guess correctly.

Best regards,

MikeG

PS - Shiro isn't made from melted down engine blocks, it's made from
Pabst Blue Ribbon cans.

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On 8/18/11, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob and List,
>
> My guess is that scrap metal from a nearby junkyard was thrown into a 40
> kilogram crucible and then preheated/shattered olivine crystals were mixed
> in. Perhaps a FE Ford big block was melted down since it contains about the
> same amount of nickel.
>
> At least to me, it was an obvious fraud from the beginning.  When I first
> laid eyes on a pile of this garbage, I walked away immediately.  I neither
> purchased or sold any.  The material was already bar-coded before it hit
> Tucson.  There were no pieces with outside surface. Frogman photographs
> without a single image of person's face diving in middle of winter, posted
> on a website, prepared ahead of time with the intention to defraud
> collectors out of their hard earned money.
>
> I won't waste any more time on this fraud and can't understand why anybody
> would won't it polluting their collections.
>
> Adam
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