[meteorite-list] Is Pena Blanca Springs meteorite a hammerstone?????

From: al mitt <almitt_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:54:23 -0400
Message-ID: <7D6AA79750254997BF222146C60D47F1_at_StarmanPC>

Hi Frank, Shawn and all,

I believe that Nininger described this fall in one of his books. It was
described as a stock pond. Ranch hands were having a picnic lunch when the
fall occured hitting the water and splashing the ranch hands. Two of the men
dove down and recovered it shortly. It had split into halfs. Pena Blanca IS
water solibal and would have disolved if it handn't been immediately
recovered. Haag told me that they used an oil to cut with and then the oil
has to be pull out of the material somehow. It has a slight smell because of
that.

So If the meteoroid upon impact of the water splashes the ranch hands, no
doubt (if you want to be technical ), some particles of the meteorite would
have been in the water that splash the ranch hands does that qualify as a
hammer stone? I'll leave that to the hammer stone experts.

Another log of the fire.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites


----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Cressy" <fcressy at prodigy.net>
To: "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at yahoo.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is Pena Blanca Springs meteorite a
hammerstone?????


Shawn and all,

The "swimming pool" quote is used in the abstract. Later in the article the
"swimming pool" is described thusly:

"Springs issue at a point where a water gap has been eroded through the
ridge
and form a creek which flows southeast. About 400 feet below the springs,
the
creek is confined by a dam 4 feet high. At the head of the pool the water is
about 10 feet in depth and 20 feet wide."


The "swimming pool" is the pool made by damming the creek, no doubt for
irrigation and/or supplying water for livestock. A photo of the pool is in
the
May 2000 issue of Meteorite magazine in an article about PBS. The only
man-made
construction involved is the dam. So I'd say "no" to it being a "hammer." (
unless there was meteoritic material in the water that splashed on the farm
truck that was driving by at the time of the fall).

Cheers,

Frank



----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 11:39:12 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Is Pena Blanca Springs meteorite a hammer
stone?????

Hello Listers,

I have a good question I was doing some searching around on the net today
and I
came across an article called


THE PENA BLANCA SPRING METEORITE,
BREWSTER COUNTY, TEXAS

BY

John T. Lonsdale University of Texas, Austin Texas

With in the article it was stated that the meteorite plunged into a swimming
pool feed by natural spring water hence where the meteorite got its name. I
have
also read this meteorite was recovered from a pond, stock pond. Now can
these
natural spring water swimming pools be man made and if so was the one on
Gages
ranch about 9.5 miles southeast of Marathon in Brewster County, Texas man
made
as well? If thats the case wounldnt Pena Blanca Springs meteorite be a
HAMMER
STONE?


Good indication that can suggest that this swimming pool/ pond could be man
made
is that after the pool was drained about 4 feet below normal level to
recover
some of the meteorite fragments. In order to drain a pool/pond there has to
be
some construction implemented in order to achieve that?


Down below is some points taken from the article and also a link to the
whole
article. Please take a look and share your thoughts on what you think.

Abstract
The Pena Blanca Spring meteorite fell August 2, 1946, in the swimming pool
at
the headquarters of the Gage Ranch near Marathon in Brewster County, Texas.
Twenty-four people were within a few hundred feet of the point of fall, and
one
person saw the meteorite in flight. Many interesting incidents were
accurately
reported.

As far as known, man has never constructed a device in which to trap
a meteorite falling to the earth. Had he done so, possibly he could not
have improved upon the swimming pool at the headquarters of the Gage
ranch about 9.5 miles southeast of Marathon in Brewster County, Texas.
This swimming pool received the Pena Blanca Spring meteorite with a
violent splash at about 1:20 p.u. on August 2, 1946. The meteorite is
named from the spring which forms the swimming pool and which is
an historic landmark in the region.

http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM32/AM32_354.pdf

Lastly, why I brought this up is because in numerous cases I have read
swimming
pool and swimming pool means man made. But again the word can be subjective.


Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
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