[meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter

From: Meteorites USA <eric_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:13:14 -0700
Message-ID: <4DA4B25A.3050301_at_meteoritesusa.com>

Facebook is irrelevant to this issue and thread. If you're truly
concerned about a thread on Facebook, why not ask me about it privately
rather than trying to divert this thread to what you want to talk about
Mike? That seem rather disingenuous to me. I'm sure others here too
think the same way.

If you want to talk about a thread you think I deleted, then please
elaborate to me privately. Or if you insist on doing this publicly,
please start a new thread and I'll be happy to go back and forth with
you on it.

Eric


On 4/12/2011 1:07 PM, meteoriteguy.com wrote:
> Is that why you deleted the Facebook thread about Steve? So the fact could be discussed or hidden?
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Meteorites USA<eric at meteoritesusa.com> wrote:
>
>
>> All this "negative" talk about the "negative" talk Adam, doesn't help either.
>>
>> Doing nothing, accomplishes nothing. If we keep our mouths shut, the media tramples us with non-facts, and the uninformed public will believe it.
>>
>> We have a duty to the meteorite world to publish scientifically correct information and rebuttals and to keep it truthful and factual.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2011 12:57 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with what Rob said about changing the context even slightly.
>>>
>>> I think it best to avoid all forms of media these days, good or bad. Grave talk
>>> of land-owner swindles, smuggling, black markets, fraud and lawsuits we have
>>> been exposed to lately in the press has already done an untold amount of
>>> damage. It is unlikely that this avocation can survive much more of this.
>>>
>>> The damage is real, accumulates over time and can't be done overnight.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Matson, Robert D."<ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 12:40:15 PM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> The main problem with the Times' editing of Darryl's submission is that
>>> they altered his factually correct letter into an inaccurate (or at
>>> best,
>>> misleading) one. The following sentences appeared in the Times' edited
>>> version:
>>>
>>> "As a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and others, 32
>>> specimens from Mars and 43 specimens from the Moon have been discovered
>>> in the deserts since the mid-1990s. The number of such specimens
>>> recovered by scientists beforehand? Not one. Since the mid-1990s?
>>> Just four."
>>>
>>> Now compare this with what Darryl actually submitted:
>>>
>>> " ... as a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and
>>> others,
>>> 32 istinct specimens of Mars and 43 distinct specimens of the Moon, as
>>> well as other exotic samples, have been discovered in the hot deserts
>>> since the mid-1990s---all of which have undergone study. Conversely, not
>>> one such specimen was recovered by scientists IN THESE REGIONS [emphasis
>>> mine] before this time, and since then scientists have recovered only
>>> four such specimens."
>>>
>>> This significant error of omission invites researchers "in-the-know" to
>>> accuse Darryl of being uninformed, and by inference unfairly calling
>>> into question his credentials for opining on the subject. This is the
>>> problem with journalists uneducated in scientific disciplines -- they
>>> don't appreciate the nuances introduced by the seemingly harmless
>>> removal of a word here, or a short phrase there. The sciences are not
>>> like prose: every word is usually there for a reason.
>>>
>>> --Rob
>>>
>>>
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