[meteorite-list] ??SaharaMet...who are they!

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:13:32 +0200
Message-ID: <003401cbf525$9878a6b0$c969f410$_at_de>

Hi Dave,

just go to the list-archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com/

And enter "terrorism" or "Pelissons"

That page is very old.
With the upcoming NWAs and the first Oman finds, the Pelissons had to experience that nobody was interested in purchasing their overpriced DaG-finds.

So they used the climate of fear directly after Sep-11 to try to decry their competitors as helpers of terrorism, in inventing that cock-and-bull-story, to lead laypeople and especially the American collectors astray from acquiring NWA-meteorites.

That form of "marketing" failed.
And it is not so surprising, that since then the Pelissons aren't part of the meteorite community any longer.

But you're right, their dirty methods are similar to those used by some of the protectionists.

I just googled a little bit,
the NYT article spreads like a wildfire.

If I were an US-citizen, I would start to think about to take legal action,
to force NYT to a counterstatement.

Btw. I don't join in the general criticism about media.
There are also good articles about meteorites to be found.
For Europe I want to mention e.g. the excellent and self-contained regular articles by Christian Pinter in the "Wiener Zeitung" or on local levels too. E.g. after the supposed fall in Winter this year in Germany, the local journalists did an excellent job, even joined the German meteorite forum to gather correct information.

They delivered real quality journalism.

That what Broad did, is gutter journalism,
no matter, what for a standing he has.

Best,
Martin





 

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Myers
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. April 2011 14:26
An: Paul H.; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ??SaharaMet...who are they!



Hi Paul and list,

The NYT story is bad enough, But who are these meteorite hunters, Roland and
Richard Pelisson who have the Sahara Met website.

They claim on there web site that NWA meteorites are "International Contraband"
that support Terrorism.

It looks to me that they want all the NWA finds for them selfs.

Has anyone ever contacted them? They seem to have had a lot of there meteorites
classified in the US.


Just wondering if anyone knows these two guys, There does not seem to be much
talk about them on this list?

Dave Myers

























 


----- Original Message ----
From: Paul H. <oxytropidoceras at cox.net>
To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 7:48:33 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NYT Story ? Overseas and Local Distribution

?Overseas list members, if you have the opportunity,
please peruse the International Herald Tribune to
see if they picked up the story and run it in its entirety.?

By searching the International Herald Tribune web site,
I found that it was published in this newspaper on
April 4 at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=meteorites&st=cse


The entire story also appeared in the Sydney Morning
Herald as ?Souvenirs from space,? April 7, 2011,
http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html

Also, it appeared at:

1. rssbroadcast,com, April 4, 2011
http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40828
http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40742

2. WA.today, Australia, April 6, 2011.
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html

3. Yahoo News
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthAmexemObservers/message/10634

4. Daily Comet, Lafourche Parish Louisiana
http://www.dailycomet.com/article/NY/20110405/ZNYT03/104053033/1225/news100?Title=Black-Market-Trinkets-From-Space


5. A version of the New York Times story, ?Il mercato nero
dei meteoriti? appeared in the ?Post? on April 6, 2011,
http://www.ilpost.it/2011/04/06/il-mercato-nero-dei-meteoriti/

This entire text of this article is making the rounds
of the Internet. This is something that definitely needs to
be considered in any response. It certainly will make
preparing an effective response to the article quite difficult
as it is being reprinted, in some cases under different
titles and in different languages, in a wild range of media
outlets.

To further complicate matters, the link to this article is
being posted a number of web sites. For example;

1. Egyptology News at:
http://egyptology.blogspot.com/2011/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space.html

2. environmental reporting at:
http://word.emerson.edu/sprg11jr364/2011/04/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space/

and 3. American Scientist
http://www.americanscientist.org/science/pub/-1875

Yours,

Paul H
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