[meteorite-list] BS In The NYT: Black Market Trinkets From Space

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:24:27 +0200
Message-ID: <43C7AD715CBA4C8183A19D12D517A05F_at_thinkcentre>

Martin, dealers, list, highly estimated con-junkies , -

may be one year ago I wrote an email to contact the italian members of the
Gebel Kamil expedition. I congratulated them to their splendid discovery,
underlined how much this meteorite fascinates me and asked, if there'd be
any new insights in regard to the terrestrian age of Gebel Kamil. I never
received any answer. Nothing. It's not too important of course, but so much
for the readiness of some members of the scientific community to share and
communicate their knowledge - what they should do, not only 'cause they're
paid with public money, I guess, but also based on a vital interest in their
subjects.

Fortunately there're many scientists, the majority most probably, who think
and act different, open, willing to cooperate also with the non-scientific
part of the meteorite community. The NYT article at least mentions this
fact (thank you, Dr. Agee, but: caution! - dealing with the black market
makes you guilty as well ;).

Possibly it would be a wise reaction to concentrate cooperation on these
memebers of the scientific community
and ignore people like Dres. Harvey and DiMartino. In any case, Martin,
yes, Dr. Harvey's statement: "It's a black market (...) It's as organized as
any drug trade and just as illegal" deserves an apology as well as a public
justification. It's as apparently false as simply justiciable.

Best as ever,
Matthias


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BS In The NYT: Black Market Trinkets From
Space


No Phil.

I have perhaps only still 30-40 years to live. Knock on wood.
I'm no almoner, nor - other than them - I'm so parasitic to be paid by the
public for insulting and for doing damage to other people and to my
professional branch.
Rather than hunting reckless idiots, who seem to haven't had any form of
education at home,
I would like to hunt meteorites.
The stones are most important for science and not these few single
intellectual will-o-wisps.
They are replaceable, the work the private meteorite sector does, is not.

In my eyes, with that article
Dr.Harvey and Dr.DiMartino made an exhibition of themselves.
They should be ashamed. They're a shame for their guild.

I think we all here on the list expect an apology from them
and a rectification by them published in the same place.

Everything else, neither a discussion with these persons, wouldn't make
sense,
before that hasn't happened.

In former times people really had more manners, education, sense of
responsibility and knowledge.

Such people make the new times, we have to live in,
and that makes me puke.

Martin


(Sorry for that expression - in my next post, you will see something more
unbelievable than that NYT-article, so that you will forgive me not to have
kept countenance...)





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Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2011 01:15
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Not only that, but now you have to pay the NYT to read their dumb articles.
I propose that Martin Altmann compose a scathing rebuttal to this melange of

blithering blather.

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