[meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
From: Ed Deckert <edeckert_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01cb4aef$af3cd5f0$6401a8c0_at_EdDeckertMain> That is Sooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttt Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net> To: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net>; "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? The correlation between cured pork products and meteorites is undeniable Richard. Consider this fine ham: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200514554515 Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog ------------------ We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net> To: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net>; "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? I'm considering extensive photograghs of my local deli meat section...awesome breccias and crust on the turkey, then some very considerable crust on the ham. The veining in the ham sort of flies in the face of any further debate of such terrestrial history, althought the brecciated turkey may in fact spark a lively discussion. But please, before isotope analyisis is called for the resultant impactors, let's consider the need. I, for one, will go with whatever conclusion we commonly have, notwithstanding any anomalies, which, of course, we need not go into at this point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net> To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Funny you mention cheese Martin. One of my self imposed edicts for buying is: If the meteorite costs less per pound than filet mignon...skip dinner and buy the stone. Perhaps we should combine ideologies and use the cheesesteak as a model http://www.greatwraps.com/Philly-cheesesteaks.jpg Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog ------------------ We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hi Shawn, I meant it totally seriously. Even I handling daily meteorites, and probably because of my simple mind, have to do such visualizations from time to time, and I wanted to express only, that for many if not most collectors (incl. researchers),it really doesn't matter that much, whether a meteorite is found in Sahara, Antarctica, USA or Burundi. The meteorites from Sahara and especially the NWA are, were and will have been always the most important source of meteoritic material of all times. As that collecting hobby is about meteorites, why one shouldn't collect them too? You know, meteorites can tell to the collectors two stories. One story is their Earthly story. Their story how they felt, who owned them before, sometimes some curious circumstances how they were found or how they felt, who has parts of them, in which museums are parts of them, in how many books was written something about them, were some scientific recoveries made for the first time on them... etc. This story is interesting for the collector, who likes historic meteorites or pedigree specimens most. The other story is, what they have to tell us about the worlds out there, the solar system, how sun, planets, Earth, life has formed. For this story there it isn't important whether the stone bears a name or a NWA-number. Those meteorites are interesting for collectors with a fascination more for space, science, the material itself. I'd say, from my experience most collectors collect both kinds of meteorites. You're 8 months around - meteorite collecting exist for 200 years now. ("old timers" - guess I am a kind of, 30 years ago I purchased my first one). When I was young, pretty and full of hopes, I had the permanent choice of only 300 different meteorites/locations. Most of them very laborious to get into the collection, most of them available and/or affordable only in bogey-sizes. Those roadbed-style chondrites, which you as collector get now from NWA-wonderland ad libitum, they came at my times from Texas, Kansas, New Mexico.. and they had cost not 30 nor 50$ but 1000 or 2000$ a kg. Go just 10 years back. Something like a howardite, which you find sometimes here offered on the list or on ebay at 5$/g - the people had to pay 400$ a gram for it. And you had from the rare types almost nothing to choose from. Acapulcoite? You're choice was simple. Monument Draw or Acapulco. One 800$, the other 1200$/g - and not 30$. NWA enabled me, that today I can have in my cupboard the complete asteroid belt, as far as it is known today. All types of rocks, all types of asteroids. And now I can choose, even within the different classes, (sometimes even within the parent body!) as rare as they might be. Now I can afford it! And I can afford it in sizes, that I don't need any longer a magnifier and a lot of fantasy to imagine, that the pinpoint of speck really could be a piece of the meteorite, I only know from books. I even can collect now meteorite types, which weren't known to exist before. Yes, Shawn, I even can have in my collection a variety of different rocks from Planet Mars! And I don't have to sell home and hearth anymore for getting a fingernail-sized piece of that in my hands, what the heroes of my childhood Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins brought back from up there! Now Jane & John and everyone can afford a small piece of Moon. Indeed Shawn, when I was in Tucson, the kilogram of cheese (and I mean cheese, that kind with taste) in the supermarket was more expensive than a kilogram of space rocks on the show! Of course it is a perversion, but also extremely fantastic, isn't it? ---------- That means NWA to me, that means NWA to many collectors. To science they mean more, there the NWAs are of outstanding importance. 10 years NWA lasts now, that immense gain of meteoritic wealth, knowledge and also passion for the collecting people. If collectors and scientists don't care and that hysteria with that laws-insanity continues, it will take only 10 years more and the NWAs will fully have disappeared again. (And then, one of your questions will be obsolete, because then we all will have to pay again the bitter and cruel prices for them like 10 and 20 years ago.) Best! Martin -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2010 01:26 An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hi Martin and Listers, Wow I want what ever your taking and so does my fingers. Any whos thank you for sharing your thoughts Martin and telling me I can answer some of my questions myself. WOW I forgot that the List was a place to talk about meteorites and ask questions. My bad, I must be at the wrong Meteorite List.... I bet I got phished. Dang, I need a new virus protection program :)~ Back to NWA meteorites, I find it interesting that there isn't much write ups about them. So from a person that has only been around..... mmmmmm lets say 8 months, I think it was a good time to say something about this topic and see what some of the old timers thought about NWA meteorites. And lastly I hope a meteorite doesn't care where it lands, but from a collectors stand point, we do care, and from a science stand point, they care as well, cause if they didn't then I wouldn't see why the need for strewn fields or coordinates of where the meteorites are recovered from. Shawn Alan IMCA1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p 4340 ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives..html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. 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