[meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: <AANLkTim9CbnFvdBBfYoV7RTq+P728rv2YS4NSQbUvq9k_at_mail.gmail.com> LOL. Now that is funny. What on Earth possessed a person to.......nevermind. LOL On 9/2/10, Rob Wesel <nakhladog at comcast.net> wrote: > The correlation between cured pork products and meteorites is undeniable > Richard. Consider this fine ham: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200514554515 > > Rob Wesel > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/nakhladog > ------------------ > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net> > To: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net>; "Martin Altmann" > <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? > > > I'm considering extensive photograghs of my local deli meat > section...awesome breccias and crust on the turkey, then some very > considerable crust on the ham. The veining in the ham sort of flies in the > face of any further debate of such terrestrial history, althought the > brecciated turkey may in fact spark a lively discussion. But please, before > isotope analyisis is called for the resultant impactors, let's consider the > need. I, for one, will go with whatever conclusion we commonly have, > notwithstanding any anomalies, which, of course, we need not go into at this > point. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net> > To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? > > > Funny you mention cheese Martin. > > One of my self imposed edicts for buying is: > > If the meteorite costs less per pound than filet mignon...skip dinner and > buy the stone. > > Perhaps we should combine ideologies and use the cheesesteak as a model > > http://www.greatwraps.com/Philly-cheesesteaks.jpg > > Rob Wesel > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/nakhladog > ------------------ > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? > > > Hi Shawn, > > I meant it totally seriously. Even I handling daily meteorites, and probably > because of my simple mind, have to do such visualizations from time to time, > and I wanted to express only, that for many if not most collectors (incl. > researchers),it really doesn't matter that much, > whether a meteorite is found in Sahara, Antarctica, USA or Burundi. > > The meteorites from Sahara and especially the NWA are, were and will have > been always the most important source of meteoritic material of all times. > > As that collecting hobby is about meteorites, why one shouldn't collect them > too? > > You know, meteorites can tell to the collectors two stories. > One story is their Earthly story. > Their story how they felt, who owned them before, sometimes some curious > circumstances how they were found or how they felt, who has parts of them, > in which museums are parts of them, in how many books was written something > about them, were some scientific recoveries made for the first time on > them... etc. > This story is interesting for the collector, who likes historic meteorites > or pedigree specimens most. > > The other story is, > what they have to tell us about the worlds out there, the solar system, how > sun, planets, Earth, life has formed. > For this story there it isn't important whether the stone bears a name or a > NWA-number. > Those meteorites are interesting for collectors with a fascination more for > space, science, the material itself. > > I'd say, from my experience most collectors collect both kinds of > meteorites. > > > You're 8 months around - meteorite collecting exist for 200 years now. > ("old timers" - guess I am a kind of, 30 years ago I purchased my first > one). > When I was young, pretty and full of hopes, I had the permanent choice of > only 300 different meteorites/locations. Most of them very laborious to get > into the collection, most of them available and/or affordable only in > bogey-sizes. Those roadbed-style chondrites, which you as collector get now > from NWA-wonderland ad libitum, they came at my times from Texas, Kansas, > New Mexico.. and they had cost not 30 nor 50$ but 1000 or 2000$ a kg. > > > Go just 10 years back. Something like a howardite, which you find sometimes > here offered on the list or on ebay at 5$/g - the people had to pay 400$ a > gram for it. And you had from the rare types almost nothing to choose from. > Acapulcoite? You're choice was simple. Monument Draw or Acapulco. One 800$, > the other 1200$/g - and not 30$. > > NWA enabled me, that today I can have in my cupboard the complete asteroid > belt, as far as it is known today. > > All types of rocks, all types of asteroids. > And now I can choose, even within the different classes, (sometimes even > within the parent body!) > as rare as they might be. > > Now I can afford it! And I can afford it in sizes, that I don't need any > longer a magnifier and a lot of fantasy to imagine, that the pinpoint of > speck really could be a piece of the meteorite, I only know from books. > I even can collect now meteorite types, which weren't known to exist before. > Yes, Shawn, I even can have in my collection a variety of different rocks > from Planet Mars! > And I don't have to sell home and hearth anymore for getting a > fingernail-sized piece of that in my hands, what the heroes of my childhood > Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins brought back from up there! > Now Jane & John and everyone can afford a small piece of Moon. > > Indeed Shawn, when I was in Tucson, the kilogram of cheese (and I mean > cheese, that kind with taste) in the supermarket was more expensive than a > kilogram of space rocks on the show! Of course it is a perversion, > but also extremely fantastic, isn't it? > > ---------- > > That means NWA to me, that means NWA to many collectors. > To science they mean more, there the NWAs are of outstanding importance. > > 10 years NWA lasts now, that immense gain of meteoritic wealth, knowledge > and also passion for the collecting people. > If collectors and scientists don't care and that hysteria with that > laws-insanity continues, > it will take only 10 years more and the NWAs will fully have disappeared > again. > (And then, one of your questions will be obsolete, because then we all will > have to pay again the bitter and cruel prices for them like 10 and 20 years > ago.) > > Best! > Martin > > > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn > Alan > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2010 01:26 > An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? > > Hi Martin and Listers, > > Wow I want what ever your taking and so does my fingers. Any whos thank you > for sharing your thoughts Martin and telling me I can answer some of my > questions myself. > > WOW I forgot that the List was a place to talk about meteorites and ask > questions. My bad, I must be at the wrong Meteorite List.... I bet I got > phished. Dang, I need a new virus protection program :)~ > > Back to NWA meteorites, I find it interesting that there isn't much write > ups about them. So from a person that has only been around..... mmmmmm lets > say 8 months, I think it was a good time to say something about this topic > and see what some of the old timers thought about NWA meteorites. > > And lastly I hope a meteorite doesn't care where it lands, but from a > collectors stand point, we do care, and from a science stand point, they > care as well, cause if they didn't then I wouldn't see why the need for > strewn fields or coordinates of where the meteorites are recovered from. > > Shawn Alan > IMCA1633 > eBaystore > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p > 4340 > > > > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone ------------------------------------------------------------Received on Thu 02 Sep 2010 09:11:12 AM PDT |
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