[meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:11:12 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9CbnFvdBBfYoV7RTq+P728rv2YS4NSQbUvq9k_at_mail.gmail.com>

LOL. Now that is funny. What on Earth possessed a person
to.......nevermind. LOL



On 9/2/10, Rob Wesel <nakhladog at comcast.net> wrote:
> The correlation between cured pork products and meteorites is undeniable
> Richard. Consider this fine ham:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200514554515
>
> Rob Wesel
> www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> www.facebook.com/nakhladog
> ------------------
> We are the music makers...
> and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
> Willy Wonka, 1971
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net>
> To: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net>; "Martin Altmann"
> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
>
>
> I'm considering extensive photograghs of my local deli meat
> section...awesome breccias and crust on the turkey, then some very
> considerable crust on the ham. The veining in the ham sort of flies in the
> face of any further debate of such terrestrial history, althought the
> brecciated turkey may in fact spark a lively discussion. But please, before
> isotope analyisis is called for the resultant impactors, let's consider the
> need. I, for one, will go with whatever conclusion we commonly have,
> notwithstanding any anomalies, which, of course, we need not go into at this
> point.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net>
> To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>;
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
>
>
> Funny you mention cheese Martin.
>
> One of my self imposed edicts for buying is:
>
> If the meteorite costs less per pound than filet mignon...skip dinner and
> buy the stone.
>
> Perhaps we should combine ideologies and use the cheesesteak as a model
>
> http://www.greatwraps.com/Philly-cheesesteaks.jpg
>
> Rob Wesel
> www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> www.facebook.com/nakhladog
> ------------------
> We are the music makers...
> and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
> Willy Wonka, 1971
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
>
>
> Hi Shawn,
>
> I meant it totally seriously. Even I handling daily meteorites, and probably
> because of my simple mind, have to do such visualizations from time to time,
> and I wanted to express only, that for many if not most collectors (incl.
> researchers),it really doesn't matter that much,
> whether a meteorite is found in Sahara, Antarctica, USA or Burundi.
>
> The meteorites from Sahara and especially the NWA are, were and will have
> been always the most important source of meteoritic material of all times.
>
> As that collecting hobby is about meteorites, why one shouldn't collect them
> too?
>
> You know, meteorites can tell to the collectors two stories.
> One story is their Earthly story.
> Their story how they felt, who owned them before, sometimes some curious
> circumstances how they were found or how they felt, who has parts of them,
> in which museums are parts of them, in how many books was written something
> about them, were some scientific recoveries made for the first time on
> them... etc.
> This story is interesting for the collector, who likes historic meteorites
> or pedigree specimens most.
>
> The other story is,
> what they have to tell us about the worlds out there, the solar system, how
> sun, planets, Earth, life has formed.
> For this story there it isn't important whether the stone bears a name or a
> NWA-number.
> Those meteorites are interesting for collectors with a fascination more for
> space, science, the material itself.
>
> I'd say, from my experience most collectors collect both kinds of
> meteorites.
>
>
> You're 8 months around - meteorite collecting exist for 200 years now.
> ("old timers" - guess I am a kind of, 30 years ago I purchased my first
> one).
> When I was young, pretty and full of hopes, I had the permanent choice of
> only 300 different meteorites/locations. Most of them very laborious to get
> into the collection, most of them available and/or affordable only in
> bogey-sizes. Those roadbed-style chondrites, which you as collector get now
> from NWA-wonderland ad libitum, they came at my times from Texas, Kansas,
> New Mexico.. and they had cost not 30 nor 50$ but 1000 or 2000$ a kg.
>
>
> Go just 10 years back. Something like a howardite, which you find sometimes
> here offered on the list or on ebay at 5$/g - the people had to pay 400$ a
> gram for it. And you had from the rare types almost nothing to choose from.
> Acapulcoite? You're choice was simple. Monument Draw or Acapulco. One 800$,
> the other 1200$/g - and not 30$.
>
> NWA enabled me, that today I can have in my cupboard the complete asteroid
> belt, as far as it is known today.
>
> All types of rocks, all types of asteroids.
> And now I can choose, even within the different classes, (sometimes even
> within the parent body!)
> as rare as they might be.
>
> Now I can afford it! And I can afford it in sizes, that I don't need any
> longer a magnifier and a lot of fantasy to imagine, that the pinpoint of
> speck really could be a piece of the meteorite, I only know from books.
> I even can collect now meteorite types, which weren't known to exist before.
> Yes, Shawn, I even can have in my collection a variety of different rocks
> from Planet Mars!
> And I don't have to sell home and hearth anymore for getting a
> fingernail-sized piece of that in my hands, what the heroes of my childhood
> Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins brought back from up there!
> Now Jane & John and everyone can afford a small piece of Moon.
>
> Indeed Shawn, when I was in Tucson, the kilogram of cheese (and I mean
> cheese, that kind with taste) in the supermarket was more expensive than a
> kilogram of space rocks on the show! Of course it is a perversion,
> but also extremely fantastic, isn't it?
>
> ----------
>
> That means NWA to me, that means NWA to many collectors.
> To science they mean more, there the NWAs are of outstanding importance.
>
> 10 years NWA lasts now, that immense gain of meteoritic wealth, knowledge
> and also passion for the collecting people.
> If collectors and scientists don't care and that hysteria with that
> laws-insanity continues,
> it will take only 10 years more and the NWAs will fully have disappeared
> again.
> (And then, one of your questions will be obsolete, because then we all will
> have to pay again the bitter and cruel prices for them like 10 and 20 years
> ago.)
>
> Best!
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn
> Alan
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2010 01:26
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
>
> Hi Martin and Listers,
>
> Wow I want what ever your taking and so does my fingers. Any whos thank you
> for sharing your thoughts Martin and telling me I can answer some of my
> questions myself.
>
> WOW I forgot that the List was a place to talk about meteorites and ask
> questions. My bad, I must be at the wrong Meteorite List.... I bet I got
> phished. Dang, I need a new virus protection program :)~
>
> Back to NWA meteorites, I find it interesting that there isn't much write
> ups about them. So from a person that has only been around..... mmmmmm lets
> say 8 months, I think it was a good time to say something about this topic
> and see what some of the old timers thought about NWA meteorites.
>
> And lastly I hope a meteorite doesn't care where it lands, but from a
> collectors stand point, we do care, and from a science stand point, they
> care as well, cause if they didn't then I wouldn't see why the need for
> strewn fields or coordinates of where the meteorites are recovered from.
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA1633
> eBaystore
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> 4340
>
>
>
>
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