[meteorite-list] Just Got Threatened by Steven Curry!!

From: Ken Newton <magellon.ken_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:00:55 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBKjd3AAqS7+wS_xE7KKRLWCeMqkEieGCt+F7b_at_mail.gmail.com>

Well I got an email too.

Mr. Curry is reading our texts. Thus, he should know that we all spend
a great deal of time helping others with meteorite identification and
trying to make this hobby better. We are not paid to assist and have
no vested interests in protecting lunar or martian meteorite
collection values. How so? One cannot protect values because the
amount/rarity of each fall is unique to itself. For example, If a huge
amount of a fall was discover and sold, its price would be determined
by market supply and demand. For example, NWA 869 would have been much
more costly had there not been so much of it! And too the owner(s) of
the fall can control the price by releasing the amount(s) to the
market but he/they is/are the only one(s).

Testing facilities and university professors do not attempt to control
the market. The truth of the matter is they have been so eager to
discover new finds, in the past they have tested for free. Testing in
itself is an expensive undertaking because only one in a thousand
samples sent in results in being meteoritic. With the popularity of
Meteorite Men, the ratio has probably doubled or tripled and thus many
universities have completely stopped testing due to a lack of funding
in these lean times.

Hopeful persons may get mad when a sample is returned and told it is
not a meteorite. We as collectors get upset when persons ignore the
experts and repetitively clog the system with wrongs. Perhaps setting
back real classification work and limited budgets from months to
years.

Here is my suggestion to you, SC. Let other meteorite experts verify
and classify your best suspect meteorite. If your meteorite claim
cannot be independently verified it will never be recognized as
genuine, never. There will always be a shadow over it. There is no
conspiracy. If you have a meteorite, it can be independently verified
overseas if you wish. But you must face facts too. If it is not a
meteorite, accept that fact without false excuses. It if is an
independently verified and classified meteorite then you can attempt
to prove it has fossils, just let your steps be transparent so you can
announce to the world without the suspect meteorite accusation.

You have a whole list of meteorite dealers and collectors including
Lunar and Martian experts that would be probably be willing to answer
questions for you, one question at a time and one suspect meteorite at
a time. Depending on your humility, all you have to do is ask (not
demand, not argue).

Remember that all the photos and web sites that persons use to try to
self classify their found rocks were put there by the same experts
that are instantly viewed as non-experts or dishonest when their
suspect meteorite is reported to be or is dismissed as a wrong. It
can't be both ways!

Best,
Ken Newton


On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Stuart, Dennis, List...
>
> Mr. Curry has sent me the very same thinly disguised threat. Same language. He must be getting tired of pressing the "send" key. I elected not to respond as that is probably what he wants. Delusional persons live through the contention they can get others to participate in. They don't give a damn what you say. It's all about what they get to say. And it will go on amd on.
>
> I have unfortunately had previous encounters with two personalities like this. Both situations came about because of my business activities inadvertantly bringing me to their attention. It became grim in both cases. In the end, they both committed suicide by violent means. I'll provide their names and the details of what finally got them to kill themselves off list for those interested.
>
> Regards,
>
> Count Deiro
> IMCA 3536
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>Sent: Oct 31, 2010 1:42 PM
>>To: Dennis Miller <astroroks at hotmail.com>, raremeteorites at yahoo.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Just Got Threatened by Steven Curry!!
>>
>>Guys he is obviously monitoring this list or the Space Rocks forum on CN
>>because I just got a slander/libel threat from him. I have copied his email
>>to me and my reply to him. He also attached a WORD document which I have
>>also copied, not sure what it means.
>>
>>
>>
>>My response to him:.......
>>"Not sure why you chose me to threaten but I only call them as I see them. I
>>have only been collecting meteorites for a couple years now and from the
>>pictures I see of what you are pushing as a possible impossible find look
>>nothing like any meteorite I nor any others from the scientist community
>>have ever seem. ? I am not getting into any pissing contest with you because
>>I claim to be no expert from any stretch of the imagination, so I suggest
>>you lose my email address, and let me exercise MY 1st Amendment rights!
>>
>>Please do not contact me again."
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Curry
>>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:53 PM
>>To: actionshooting at carolina.rr.com
>>
>>
>>Stuart; ?I would like to caution you to do your research first!!
>>Slander & libel are very serious issues. ?Have you researched the
>>Constitution, lately? ?May I suggest, that you start with the 1st
>>Amendment.
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/53287361 at N04/sets/
>>
>>Bona Petite!!
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Here is his WORD attachment.................................
>>
>>A. ?Apollo Anorthosite Thin Sections
>>
>>http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/atlas/detail/?mission=Apollo%2016&sample=60025
>>
>>http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/atlas/images/hires/60025/60025_S72-42186.jpg
>>
>>http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/atlas/images/hires/60025/60025_S72-41589.jpg
>>
>>B. Apollo Breccias Thin Sections
>>
>>C. ?Apollo Basalt Thin Sections
>>
>>D. ?Apollo Mare Basalt Thin Sections
>>
>>E. ?Apollo Dunite
>>
>>F. Apollo Impact Melts Thin Sections
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dennis Miller
>>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:31 PM
>>To: raremeteorites at yahoo.com ; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] anyone know Steven Curry?
>>
>>
>>Hello! ?Odd how this guy chose "Boggy Creek Collection" for his web site.
>>Steve Arnold as well as other Arkansasiers will remember the "Legion of
>>Boggy Creek. A sasquatch monster that terrorized the Fouke, Arkansas
>>area in the early seventies. They even made a movie out of this sighting.
>>Maybe this guy is trying to squeeze his way into TV. Ha! Watch out Steve
>>and Geoff.
>>Dennis Miller
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:58:19 -0700
>>> From: raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] anyone know Steven Curry?
>>>
>>> Yes, I remember spidy. Wasn't that the Frass meteorite that Micro Mike
>>> discovered while living in a cave on the Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>> property? I think he called it a "Spidy" instead of a spider because it
>>> only had
>>> 7 legs instead of 8 therefor it must be extraterrestrial. I noticed his
>>> websites are down. I imagine he has either been institutionalized or the
>>> batteries ran out in his cave.
>>>
>>> Here is an article about Micro Mike who finally got noticed by the media:
>>> http://www.abqjournal.com/north/262036north_news11-21-04.htm
>>>
>>> Here is the website of another self-proclaimed spokesperson for all of us
>>> in
>>> involved in meteorites called Boggy Creek:
>>> http://www.bccmeteorites.com/
>>>
>>> Steve Curry, our latest self-proclaimed spokesperson, will be presenting
>>> his
>>> "facts" at the Montrose Library on November 8th, from 7:00 to 9:00 pm.
>>> Perhaps
>>> somebody in the area should show up and thank him for his outstanding
>>> contributions to science. We will be hearing a lot more form him because
>>> he
>>> seems addicted to the camera and all of the media attention he is getting.
>>>
>>> Happy Hunting,
>>>
>>> Adam
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