[meteorite-list] Dennis Cox reports YD ice comet fragment airburst melt rocks now in labs for expert study: cosmictusk.blog: Rich Murray 2010.10.08
From: Rich Murray <rmforall_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 00:14:35 -0600 Message-ID: <6A0967D88FED413EB4F6FF9FE07AD529_at_ownerPC> Dennis Cox reports YD ice comet fragment airburst melt rocks now in labs for expert study: cosmictusk.blog: Rich Murray 2010.10.08 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.htm Friday, October 8, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/72 [you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser] I would enjoy guiding people for free to walk over public access sites in Santa Fe, New Mexico... "And the first specimens of actual airburst melt are only now finding their way into labs that are capable of wringing the truth out of them. We do have the technology to define an accurate set of marker criteria to differentiate between airburst melt and its volcanogenic cousin. And I am no longer the only one reading the blast affected materials of the impact zones. There are others on the trail now much better qualified to study those materials than I am." http://cosmictusk.com/tusk-exclusive-vance-holliday-provides-powerful-critique-of-the-younger-dryas-boundary-theory/comment-page-1#comment-2639 Dennis Cox [ http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/ ] October 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm How are you defining 'survivors', when we can't even say yet with certainty who the victims were? A healthy human can walk from one side of this continent to the other in a single year. As for time it takes for resettling on foot; my great, great, great grandfather did so, over the Oregon trail, with a pregnant wife and 8 kids in tow. A human family could easily move from anywhere in the areas of survivability into the most blasted areas of the total extinction zones in a single season. Especially a family of the most successful hunter-gathers since primates first came down out of the trees. I have yet to hear anyone who can convincingly nail down the geochronology to a resolution of better than +/- 100 years. So I don't see enough resolution in the archeological data or the geochronology, to believe that anyone can tell the whether chief Farts-In-His-Tent actually survived an impact storm with a little singed hair, or was just the first person to hike back into an area with his family and find the ashes and roasted remains of the former inhabitants. The world is only now starting to wake up to the realization that airburst events can and commonly do produce significant planetary scarring. And the first specimens of actual airburst melt are only now finding their way into labs that are capable of wringing the truth out of them. We do have the technology to define an accurate set of marker criteria to differentiate between airburst melt and its volcanogenic cousin. And I am no longer the only one reading the blast affected materials of the impact zones. There are others on the trail now much better qualified to study those materials than I am. The empirical truth is written in stone in intricate detail in the isotope mix, detailed chemistry, and emplacement motions of the easily identifiable blast affected materials of the event. That's where the final word is. It's in the rocks of the actual impact zones and quantifiable data. And not where we think 'survivors' may have been. Over the next decade, the mystery of the Younger Dryas impact storms, their chronology, and most of the details will be almost completely worked out. And when the whole world has come to understand exactly what happened, it will be a testament to the resiliency of life itself that the final remaining mystery will be how anything at all could possibly have survived in North America. Dennis Cox October 6th, 2010 at 10:36 am Hi Ed [Grondine], If we can ever get the chemistry, and geo-chronology untangled, we should see that the Taurid airburst storms have been a reoccurring disaster for millennia since the main event. And that multiple airburst, geo-ablative impact storms are the common rule. Not the exception. They have happened many times, all over the world. And the Taurids aren't through with us. I think you have a better handle on the oral traditions of America's first peoples than anyone alive. But the better I understand the nature of the energies and geomorphology of these events, the more I think the oral traditions are all from people who were a safe distance away, well over the horizon. They describe the objects flying over head like the gods are throwing thunderbolts. And they describe the after effects. But we don't hear any accounts of anyone being blinded or roasted alive by the flash of light. In those oral traditions of the first peoples, I don't hear any mention of the radiant flash. Although, I can show you numerous glacial ridges flash melted and blown over to the north and northwest. Like sheets and runnels, of melted wax on the side of a candle. Along with compelling evidence that the glaciers among those ridges were evaporated instantly. We hear rock described as "red hot". But that's only 700 to 900 degrees F. The atmospheric conditions that got them that hot would have been thousands of degrees, not just hundreds. There are many mountain ranges in Utah, Wyoming, and Colorado which did get their tops blown off like that recently by airburst storms. But thanks to the energies involved, watching such a geo-ablative airburst first hand, without eye protection, will have the same consequences for your eyes as watching a very large nuclear blast. The retinal damage will be total and permanent. If you live, you will spend the rest of your life talking about the last thing you ever saw. So in those survivor stories we don't really hear any eye witness accounts of an airburst of sufficient power to blow the top off a mountain. Only the accounts of people who went into an area soon after the event, and recognized the geologic changes. The oral accounts still hold up. But not as direct eye witness accounts. And if those oral traditions go all the way back to before the 'main event' 12,900 YA, and the original tellers were makers of Clovis points, why did they change to a completely different flint knapping technology? And why don't any of those stories describe the switch? Or the cultural or technological, imperative to do so? _______________________________________________ Dennis Cox blog, plain text, with images of samples of magnetic black glaze on melt rocks from 13 Ka ice comet fragment extreme plasma storm geoablation in Fresno, California: Rich Murray 2010.07.02 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_07_01_archive.htm Friday, July 2, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/53 [you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser] Vance Holliday shares critique of the Younger Dryas Boundary impact theory, responding to many comments: www.cosmictusk.com Rich Murray 2010.10.03 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.htm Sunday, October 3, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/71 [you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser] large expansion of fine website with global images and sensible ideas re Holocene ice comet fragment impacts: Pierson Barretto: Rich Murray 2010.09.24 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.htm Friday, September 24, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/69 [you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser] _______________________________________________ Rich Murray, MA Boston University Graduate School 1967 psychology, BS MIT 1964, history and physics, 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 505-501-2298 rmforall at comcast.net http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroDeep/messages http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages group with 148 members, 1,613 posts in a public archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages group with 1215 members, 24,105 posts in a public archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/messages participant, Santa Fe Complex www.sfcomplex.org ___________________________________________ Received on Fri 08 Oct 2010 02:14:35 AM PDT |
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