[meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures

From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 18:26:10 -0500
Message-ID: <4BDC5CD06600486697E16FD465FA42C7_at_ATARIENGINE2>

The miniature in question and many other such
depictions can be found on this website:
http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full/

The larger scale detail photos demonstrate the
truly exquisite skill and beauty of these miniatures.

At least one of the images is as recent as the
19th century, although the range of the images
goes back to the earliest Islamic times.


Sterling K. Webb
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From: "Matthias B?rmann" <majbaermann at web.de>
To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>;
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures


> Hello all,
>
> as far as I know the iconological context of this scene is the
> destruction
> of all idols which Mohammed found at this place, the Kaaba. Idol
> (eidolon)
> means: image in the sense of portrayal. The Black Stone, Haschr
> al-Aswad
> (Hi, Svend ;-), in contrary, was not an idol, it was an i c o n : not
> imitation: representation, or better: realisation.
>
> In the case of the 14th cent. miniature from the J?ME? al-TAW?RI?:
> the
> depiction of the Prophet isn't such unusual, Martin, as it is Persian
> art -
> in medieval times far more liberal and free as, alas!, today.
>
> The carpet on the early miniature from the J?ME? al-TAW?RI? with this
> typical synthesis of plantal and geometrical ornaments, carrying the
> Black
> Stone, seems to be a work of the Silk Road, most probably region of
> Kashgar.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures
>
>
>> Here the same scene from the Siyer-i-Nebi,
>> in the manuscript ordered by Ottoman Murad III. 1595.
>> (Volumes in Topkapi museum, New York & Dublin).
>>
>> http://kuerzer.de/siyer
>>
>> Best!
>> Martin
>>
>>
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>> Andr?
>> Kn?fel
>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Oktober 2010 23:32
>> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures
>>
>> BTW: This painting is called 'Mohammed at the Kaaba'
>>> It's a painting from the History of the World (J?ME? al-TAW?RI?)
>>> by Ra?id-al-Din from Tabriz, Persia
>>> from the Edinburgh manuscript, which is dated at 1307.
>>>
>>
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