[meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

From: JoshuaTreeMuseum <joshuatreemuseum_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:03:13 -0500
Message-ID: <075770CBCB894FFD89F5C5701AD3BFD1_at_ET>

The flight path of a 757 was posted over the Catalina Island area at the
time of the contrails by Rob:
<http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX>
I find that to be very solid evidence for the contrail theory.
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Apparently jet contrails get confused for missles fairly often. If you read
the comments at the bottom of the article, they reflect the exact arguments
made about the current confusion. It's deja vu all over again. Or it could
be George, his wife Jane and their daughter Judy, son Elroy and Astro their
dog, celebrating Carl Sagan's birthday.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/27/nl-ufo-military-012710.html#socialcomments

DND, RCMP mum on UFO mystery
People who saw a missile-like object soaring through the sky over a small
rural community in Newfoundland Monday night are getting no answers about
what it was, although police say they'd gotten to the bottom of the mystery.

Darlene Stewart spotted the object while taking pictures of the sunset over
Harbour Mille, a community of about 200 residents on the south coast of the
province. She says she started snapping photos.

She then called her neighbour, Emmy Pardy, and the two women, along with
Stewart's husband, say they saw three similar objects flying through the air
minutes apart, one up close and two farther off in the distance.

"I really did get sick to my stomach, I was shaking when I seen it," Stewart
told CBC News Wednesday. "We were just in awe of what we seen."

The photos taken by Stewart show blurry pictures of what appears to be a
long, round object, much like a missile, seemingly rising from the ocean,
with either smoke or flames shooting out the back end.

Objects made no noise
Stewart said the objects didn't make any noise.

"We confirmed that it was something," Sgt. Wayne Edgecombe told CBC News
Wednesday. But Edgecombe said he couldn't reveal what the police
investigation uncovered.

He said the focus of any police investigation is on whether something
criminal has occurred.

"It's nothing criminal," he said, in relation to the unidentified object.

Edgecombe said he contacted the Department of National Defence and "they
gave me some info," but he said that it is up to that department to release
the information publicly.

Defence Department officials said they were aware of the reports, but were
waiting on a final report before commenting and that the RCMP were in charge
of the investigation. However, the RCMP released a statement Wednesday
referring all media inquiries on the subject to Public Safety Canada.

That department referred inquiries back to the RCMP.

The sighting has intrigued people in the Harbour Mille area, with some
saying they were told by officers who were in the community Tuesday
investigating the sightings, that the objects were test missiles launched
from the nearby French islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon.

Edgecombe said that rumour is completely false.

The French Ministry of Defence posted a message on its website confirming it
had launched a missile from a submarine this week but the time and direction
didn't match with what was reportedly seen over the south coast of
Newfoundland.

The suggestion that the object possibly involved the military has Liberal MP
Gerry Byrne, who represents the Newfoundland riding of Humber-St. Barbe-Baie
Verte, demanding answers.

"There's a credible body of evidence," Byrne told CBC News, "that suggests
there's something spectacular happened off of our shore. Before this goes
any farther, I think the government needs to actually respond very quickly
with a straightforward, factual statement."

Was safety in jeopardy?
Byrne said if it was some kind of military test, then people should be told
whether their safety was jeopardized.

"If indeed this was a man-made object, that it was a missile, was there any
potential risk to health and safety from collateral damage should the
missile fire have failed?"

Byrne used the mystery to take a shot at the federal government for
proroguing Parliament. He said if the House of Commons was opened, he'd be
able to question the ministers of defence, transport and public safety about
the incident.

"It's cloaked in relative secrecy," he said. "And the only way to get around
that secrecy is a special institution called the floor of the House of
Commons."

Stewart said Tuesday she has been overwhelmed by the number of calls she has
received about the sighting. But she said nobody has told her officially
what it was that she saw.

"I would like to get to the bottom of it," she said.



Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/27/nl-ufo-military-012710.html#socialcomments#ixzz14vk9jp00
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