[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

From: Starsinthedirt at aol.com <Starsinthedirt_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 18:56:07 EDT
Message-ID: <b12c.5bb10f6c.3929bb07_at_aol.com>

Seeing things is NOT science! You must fight the temptation. The wind
blown surface of Mars is likely to have many odd looking things.

In my micrographs I often see some weird looking things. Last night I saw
a Scotty Dog.

Many other people see things in my images (such as the blood vessels in
Mars rocks guy). So many that I put this disclaimer on my micrograph
gallery. These people are an embarrassment that no scientist or scientific minded
person wants to be associated with.

My gallery can be found at
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm



Welcome to the Tom Phillips Meteorite Micrograph Gallery!

This gallery contains microscopic images of meteorites.

While it is tempting to read into what you might think you see, I have
never found any evidence of past life or any thing supernatural. I have read
claims by people using my images to support their ideas, theories and
dogmas. The claims of muscle fibers and other animal/people parts are the easiest
to disprove as the size scale is off. Many meteorites have various forms
of barred chondrules which may be large or quite small, almost fiber
looking. These are not biological in nature. I can and have found strikingly
similar looking structures in fresh volcanic rock.

The claims involving faith and much harder to address. All I can say is I
have noted no messages or hidden symbolism in any of my images.

My images combine some science and some art. I am concentrating on the
visually pleasing. What that means is I am often working with magnifications
much higher than what is typically useful in optical meteorite
classification examinations and as such, my images look "Different" than what many are
accustomed to. This puts me in the position of being sensitive to outrageous
claims involving my images. I am careful to say only what is accurate and
I generally avoid analysis. I give the meteorite name, type of material,
magnification or field of view and the microscope technique.

If you see any thing more than meteorite structures in any of these
images, have fun! But remember, this is no more scientific or spiritual than
seeing dogs in clouds.

Tom Phillips

In a message dated 5/22/2010 3:44:30 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
balisterjames at att.net writes:
Remember that research was 10 years ago! But yes I have also used the new
higher res pics. I found about 100 on that. Also remember what I said,
that some will be able to see them and some will not! But none the less
they are there! There are pictures composed of dots etc ( I forgot the name
for it) That work the same way. You look at it and see nothing then
suddenly a bird pops into view! The trick there is to put the pic close to your
nose then back off. Why don't you try that with my pics? Step back and
you might see them! And since they are up close already that might be the
best approach.


----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Warner <ewarner at umd.edu>
> To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 3:14:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
>
> Because you are using low res images from the Viking Mission!! Have you
gone
> back and looked at the Mars images taken by the myriad new/current
missions that
> have much higher resolution??

And I did look at the pictures but saw
> nothing, absolutely nothing of what you described.

Again, it is extremely
> easy to misinterpret shadows, particularly when you are zooming in on a
low res,
> grainy image. The human mind likes patterns and will find patterns. And
no
> matter how well you train your mind, you will be susceptible to optical
> illusions.
http://www.moillusions.com/ (the last video on the page,
> Wow!)
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

For example, you interpret deep
> shadows as being entryways, etc. But, those Viking pics didn't exactly
have the
> greatest dynamic range. They're just shadows from boulders.

Look, it
> would be uber cool to see incontrovertible proof, but the examples you
> provide don't even come close. If you are going to insist that there are
> buildings on Mars, you should at least catch up on the times and use the
most
> recent images!

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister
> wrote:
> Mike, good idea! But this posting is not about the
> book. It is about the Mars structures. They are real! But no
> one, even here with inteligent higher then most places seems to care.
No
> one even made mention of the pictures. They can only dwell on the
> book. Are they scared to face the fact that there are buildings on
> Mars? Or is every one blind to it? Reminds me of the three
> monkeys. One had his eyes covered, one his mouth, and one his ears.
> Like in the movie The Planet of the Apes.
>
>
> -----
> Original Message ----
>> From: Michael Fowler <> ymailto="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com"
> href="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com">mqfowler at mac.com>
>> To: > ymailto="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>
href="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>
> Cc: Michael Fowler <> href="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com">mqfowler at mac.com>
>> Sent: Sat,
> May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey
> THEMIS Images: ET?
>>
>>> I forgot to mention----Someone
> thought that 19 bucks was too high for a
>> fiction book. They
> sell for 25 bucks on average. And we all know what meteorite books
> run! I bought a book last year that ran me 100 bucks! So I think 19
> is not too bad for a book!
>
>> From: James Balister
> <balisterjames at > href="http://att.net">>
href="http://att.net">att.net
>
>
> James,
>
>
> $19 may seem
>> reasonable to you, but your sales figures
> speak volumes. Apparently no one wants to gamble $19 on an unknown
author
> who can't spell.
>
> Maybe you
>> should lower the price
> to stimulate demand. If you lower it enough, maybe people will take a
> chance. Wouldn't you rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a copy instead of
> none at $19 bucks a copy?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mike
>
>> Fowler
> Chicago
>
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