[meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Hunting Statistics

From: Bob Loeffler <bobl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 13:42:55 -0600
Message-ID: <B54108AB98E945C6A438C84CD091EC64_at_dell>

I disagree. Entertainment and food should NOT be counted as field expenses.
As Ryan mentioned, you have to eat food no matter whether you are out
collecting meteorites or staying at home watching TV. I would understand a
*percentage* of food costs should be allowed because the cost of food in
some areas will be higher than normal, but I don't know what a "good"
percentage would be.

As for entertainment, that should not be allowed because that could skew
your numbers drastically. For example, if Geoff, Steve #1 Arnold, Ruben,
etc go to a nudie bar and drink shots of alcohol, the total bill could run
into the hundreds or thousands of $$$ (hahaha) and that shouldn't be
included since they could do all of that in Tucson. That's an extreme
example, but I know that there is always at least one "get together" on
these types of field trips. Only expenses that are in addition to what you
would normally have from your daily lives should be included.

You (Eric) are the one who is compiling this list, so you make the rules,
but I (and many others) won't believe the results if you include stuff like
that. When I go on a trip for my company, they want all receipts and an
expense report and then they go through each item one by one to see what
they will reimburse me for and what they won't. Most entertainment expenses
are NOT reimbursed because the Federal government has rules and regulations
that companies have to abide by.

Regards,

Bob



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Hunting Statistics

Food is still an expense. As is entertainment while on a business
trip... All expenses should be included while on the road, as they are
still "expenses". Many hunters don't have time to go to the grocery
store, so to save time they eat out, which adds to the total. Any money
spent on the recovery of meteorites in the field are expenses.

Regards,
Eric



On 5/9/2010 11:00 AM, fallingfusion at wi.rr.com wrote:
> Hi Eric...
>
> Just wondering why food should be included for expenses. Don't people eat
when they're not on a hunting expedition? Sure, eating out may be more
expensive, but this isn't exactly fine dining were talking about here. -
Standard fare.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meteorites USA<eric at meteoritesusa.com>
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 10:30:10
> To: Meteorite-list<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Hunting Statistics
>
> Hi listees and fellow meteorite hunters in the field. I'm back from the
> field and I'm compiling (unscientifically) some statistical data that
> I've not yet seen anyone attempt to calculate in any way but a cursory
> manner thus far. If you've hunted the WI meteorite fall, and have data
> you'd like to share, please send me an email with your hunting
> information/statistics.
>
> Primarily what I'm looking for is totals, hours hunted, days hunted,
> meteorites found, and costs associated with this hunt. I'd like to do
> this while WI is fresh in everyone's minds and I think that will provide
> the most reliable information, and also give some an idea of the costs
> in time and money that go into recovering meteorites from the field.
>
> Please send in the following format to make it easier to add all totals.
> If you can think of any other data that should be included in this list,
> please feel free to respond on-list so others can add their input.
>
> I will be including all my totals as well in this data.
>
> Total Days In The Field:
> Total Hours Hunted Per Day:
> Total Miles Walked Per Day:
> Total Costs: (including airfare, hotel, rental car, food, fuel, cost of
> meteorites purchased, miscellaneous expenses; i.e. "pay to hunt"
> expenses) This need not be itemized, and can be a total cost for your
> hunt...
> Total Number of Meteorites Found:
> Total Weight Found:
>
> This survey is completely anonymous, and your identity will be kept
> confidential, all you need send is totals/numbers.
>
> In addition, those of you who'd like to share coordinates that would
> also be appreciated, again, your anonymity will be kept unless you state
> specifically that you wouldn't mind releasing your identity publicly in
> association with your data.
>
> All this information will be published on my site and on-list to share
> with everyone in a completely transparent and "open" manner.
>
> Thank you all in advance for your cooperation.
>
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
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