[meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010

From: Mike Miller <meteoritefinder_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:23:33 -0700
Message-ID: <x2u468bf6051005081523y89f3c9a4u46050e49baa33526_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi All I have actually seen hundreds of Franconia irons and have
actually walked far more than .....well farther than was needed to get
my head in the right place. What I see in the picture is a perfect
circular line that once went all the way around. What I see is not
formed in nature it is made by man, no only by man but by one of his
machines.The wave you are referring to was formed through original
wear to the item in question. The wear caused the failure of the
fastener and allowed you to find it years later. I don't believe it
was formed in a train wreck either. Finding someone who has time to do
a conclusive test is very unlikely so all you will be left with in the
end is a piece of metal your opinion and ours. The bottom line is
Larry posted a picture we voiced our opinion on it. No big deal.

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM, <thetoprok at aol.com> wrote:
> Hello list,
> This will be short for now, my computer is in the shop.
> First, I'm havin fun!
> Second, I thought it may be a little controversial though it may be a bit more so than I thought.
> Next I'll say that the object is smaller than might be apparent. I'll show more pictures later. I can say it is smaller than any grommet I've seen. ?I'll also say that I thought it was a shoe lace eye when I first saw it, it is however too small. It has a rollover lip that curls like a wave ?nearly all the way around and the hole in the center is blown outward, not very apparent in the image.
>
> With all due respect to Sterling and the other nay sayers, let me point out a scenario that you are not considering. I have several, and have seen many others with holes punched into, ?and sometimes nearly through the little iron. I have a perfect example of this I will show when I get my computer back and can post pics. This phenomenon has been observed in SIkhote Alin as well. Perhaps not a complete penetration but big splashes nonetheless. This has happened in Franconia where the irons are tiny and whatever it is that makes these splash forms was able to pass all the way through an already flight oriented meteorite.
>
> Sure, it may not be a meteorite, that is understood by me, I'll have it tested if I can. However, I do believe the odds are in favor of SaW 005 being the origin ; )
>
> Humbly Confident
> Larry Atkins
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thetoprok at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:43:04
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8,2010
>
> Test
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:25:59
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8,
> ? ? ? ?2010
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> You misunderstood my post. ?I never said the links were from Larry, the
> Franconia meteorwrong guy. ?They're from some other meteorwrong guy. ? But I
> guess I can see how you infered that. ?I was trying to illustrate the point
> that something found in a known strewn field doth not a meteorite maketh.
>
>
> Phil Whitmer
>
>
>
> ----------------------
>
> Those ebay links you provided were not listed by Larry, the guy who owns the
> Franconia iron, which I believe could very well be an iron meteorite, but
> not 100% sure.
> I have some Franonia irons with odd shapes as well, The roll over lip make
> me think it could very well be authentic. Also the the raised portion
> leading up to the hole in the center does not appear to be of even size all
> the way around, which it would be if it were a button. I think also the size
> make it a slim chance it is a button. Also the metal around the hole is not
> uniform and is more flattened and rolled over one one side. Dont think it is
> a wrong, but like I said I cant be sure, but Larry is a very knowledgeable
> guy who knows his meteorites, if he says it is a meteorite after having it
> for a few years and examining it in person, I will take his word for it
> until proved wrong. If I had to pay cash for it, I may then think about
> having it examined further. But A great collection piece either way.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Joe Kerchner
> http://illinoismeteorites.com
>
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