[meteorite-list] Fwd: Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.

From: wahlperry at aol.com <wahlperry_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:21:20 -0400
Message-ID: <8CCB92E78ECD190-1730-AD94_at_webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: wahlperry at aol.com
To: parkforestmet at hotmail.com
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.


Hi Bill,?
?
Since you have decided to call me names on a public forum I feel that I?
need to speak up. But in the future I prefer to keep this off list.?
?
I Never told anyone to beat it, I am not sure where that is coming from
.It is not up to the other hunters who is allowed to hunt the land. It
is strictly up to the landowners.?
?
The reasons why I did not have an in depth conversation with you in?
Wisconsin.?
?
#1 We were in a rush.?
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#2 I had already formed a poor opinion of you by the many negative?
posts you have made to the List . I felt it was best to keep a distance?
from you. Maybe you have given me the wrong impression, I am strictly?
basing it on several of your posts. Atlhough some of your posts are?
nice... many are not. Perhaps I can refresh your memory.?
?
Aug 18, 2009 the X - rated " SHAFT" post which is pretty?
creative?
yet so outrageous that I am surprised it made it to the List.?
Or how about the July 20, 2009 "rats ass" post?
or the July 11, 2009 "egomaniac dealers" post.?
?
Perhaps it would serve you well to read your own advice on the post?
dated May 2, 2009 regarding reading your old posts and realizing how "?
damn stupid" they are. I will provide a link for you?
in case you decide to check them out.?
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http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html?
?
Sonny?
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-----Original Message-----?
From: bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>?
To: wahlperry at aol.com?
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com?
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 3:48 pm?
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.?
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Sonny,?
?
You can spin it any way you like. Your lengthy chain of events should
include,?
"We spent a minute talking to the guys that were there first and they
agreed?
that it would be a pleasure for all of us to search together". One
minute of?
courtesy goes a long way. There were at least 3 hours of daylight left.?
?
I met several well known hunters on land that they claimed to have
secured and?
was told in no uncertain terms to beat it. I did. Next time I'll
remember your?
code of conduct.?
?
Bill?
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> To: parkforestmet at hotmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com?
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.?
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:26:20 -0400?
> From: wahlperry at aol.com?
>?
> Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much?
> differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with
little?
> time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2?
> guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning
over?
> a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I
approached?
> the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS?
> the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of
his?
> ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his?
> son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the?
> house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends?
> and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and?
> said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove
down?
> to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner?
> greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We?
> discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for?
> his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the?
> property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember?
> this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of?
> sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to?
> plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of?
> dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and
hotel.?
> We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short?
> days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will?
> present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that?
> evening.?
>?
> Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following
morning?
> we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few
minutes?
> joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something?
> if it was such a big deal.?
> It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not?
> you.?
>?
> Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other
posts?
> to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time?
> talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of?
> the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please
enlighten?
> me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let
us?
> know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may
be?
> a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the?
> planting going on there is a good chance the material may be lost?
> forever.?
>?
> And as for Georgia, you're right my heart belongs to Georgia.?
>?
> Sonny?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: bill kies?
> To: wahlperry at aol.com?
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com?
> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:33 pm?
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.?
>?
>?
> Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on
cobbs?
> and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that
of?
> Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us?
> like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we?
> had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was?
> so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members?
> was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned?
> the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door?
> trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat
on?
> the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all?
> you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will?
> tell. ----------------------------------------> To:?
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00?
> -0400> From: wahlperry at aol.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin?
> Meteorite Hunt.>> Hi All,>> I just returned from my second hunt in?
> Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9> days in the field. I really enjoyed?
> spending time with the other> hunters and got to know some of the?
> locals too.> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I
have?
> ever> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow?
> you to> hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had> a chance
to?
> milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark> Fries for
the?
> great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and> Karl Aston?
> played a major role in gaining> access to hunt many of the
properties.?
> These 2 guys are awesome. What> really made this trip enjoyable was?
> spending time with everyone> hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was?
> able> to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog)?
> and the> other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is
366.4?
> grams. I> hope to post pictures from the hunt on my> website within
the?
> next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered> is simply not?
> true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of> ground )?
> only 2 stones were recovered.> On the previous hunt with 10 guys?
> hunting only 4 stones were recovered.> By far, the best complete
stone?
> I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another> kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner?
> for his> magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding?
> finds.>> Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further?
> recovery> of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice
to?
> compile a> list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW> so far.>>>?
> Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field.>>
Sonny>?
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