[meteorite-list] Related Meteorite Falls 11 years apart? BothHammers! Both L6 Olivine-hypersthene

From: Meteorites USA <eric_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:03:42 -0800
Message-ID: <4B945AFE.1000107_at_meteoritesusa.com>

I was going to stay closed mouth since I opened it a few hours ago and
got my theory handed back to me very matter-of-factly. However, a rain
drop is hardly a meteorite and does not orbit the Sun, unless of course
it somehow miraculously escapes the Earth's gravitational field. But
then it would freeze in deep space and would no longer be considered
rain now would it? I believe frozen water is called ice if I'm correct.
but then again wouldn't it melt once it got closer to the sun? I could
be wrong here so please point out if I am... I'm sure you will.

All the BS aside, I would venture a guess that if someone found two
meteorites of the same class 1.4 miles away from one another as cold
finds they would assume the area would be a strewnfield until proven
otherwise. This without of course taking into account any dating of the
stones.

Didn't I read a while back about asteroid-quakes? As asteroids near the
Earth newer material is brought to the surface. In other words, would an
asteroid's surface act as a shield against the cosmic rays to the
interior of the asteroid? Would this affect anything at all? Is ALL
material in any given asteroid the same age, or is this age determined
by the cosmic radiation levels within any given part? Does this take
into account other older and younger bodies impacting a parent body and
becoming part of that body? Is accretion real or a figment of scientific
world's imagination? Am I asking too many questions? ;)

I'm being facetious of course. Now, I'm assuming a lot of things here,
and call me an ass if you like, but at least I didn't sound like an ass
by slamming someone else on-list and insulting them by explaining what
rain is.

As far as I know a meteorite is made of stone or iron, or a mixture of
both and it comes from an asteroid, and these asteroids come from space
and all have orbits unless those orbits are perturbed by a larger body,
like which I have been apparently.

Regards,
Eric





On 3/7/2010 5:24 PM, Martin Altmann wrote:
> Yah,
>
> and the Earth is rotating. Eric, calculate how far seen from a fix point
> from space that little town is moving on his latitude circle in a few
> seconds only...
>
> Shht Eric, you have a spot in your garden, of only 1/3 inch diameter.
> An incredible spot.
> Because there it happened, that two projectiles of a diameter of only a few
> mm, falling from an altitude of thousands of feet, hit each other in exactly
> the same spot on the ground!
> And that happens several times a year!
> Check it out. It's called "rain" and whenever it rains, you will see that
> the spot is wet...
>
> Best!
> Martin
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Rob
> Matson
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. M?rz 2010 01:48
> An: Meteorites USA
> Cc: Meteorite List
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Related Meteorite Falls 11 years apart?
> BothHammers! Both L6 Olivine-hypersthene
>
> Hi Eric,
>
>
>> Statistically it seems very possible they are related and from
>> the same parent body. In fact the probability of them NOT being
>> related seems remote as it doesn't make sense not to consider
>> the likelihood of a pairing relationship.
>>
> The only factor about the two Wethersfield falls that suggests a
> pairing is the L6 classification they share. However, since L6 is
> one of the most common meteorite classifications, it's hardly
> compelling evidence for a common immediate precursor body (IPB).
>
>
>> Has anyone looked at Google Earth and zoomed out to see how small
>> a spot that actually is? That's like shooting a speeding bullet
>> out of the air with another. The Earth is rotating ~365 times per
>> year, x 11 years that's 4015 rotations of the earth and 11 complete
>> orbits around the Sun. Two small rocks of the same exact type
>> floated around the solar system for millions/billions of years,
>> and crash land within 1.4 miles of each other only 11 years
>> apart and they are not related?
>>
> Let me counter your theory with one question: Why should a
> meteorite stream have orbital characteristics that are synchronous
> with earth's day, or more specifically earth's geography?
>
> Think about it: there is no dynamical mechanism to produce such
> synchronicity. It is far more likely that truly paired meteorites
> falling in different years would do so in completely different
> parts of the world. Given the miniscule fraction of falls that are
> successfully recovered each year, the odds are very long that two
> falls -- in different years -- will ever be recovered that provably
> came from the same IPB.
>
> --Rob
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