[meteorite-list] real jobs

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:53:22 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTimt7EUU2byDaMNS_s8bnTk_fRlzUKWAjHsZdjeu_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

If they tried to scam once, they will probably do it again. They are
probably selling misrepresented meteorites right now while we are
sitting here talking about it. It's a shame that someone might stop
there, buy a meteorite, and not get what they paid for. And if they
find out later that they were scammed, it might leave a bad taste in
their mouth about meteorites (or meteorite people) in general.

I think law enforcement should be notified. But I am two thousand
miles away with no way to purchase from them - unless they sell via
the web or eBay.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 6/24/10, Mike Miller <meteoritefinder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I traded for one (I think it was about 100 pounds) that in my
> opinion was actually a Campo it was presented to me as a Toluca. The
> deal was reversed in the end so my merchandise was returned to me at
> the cost of not being able to ever do business with "the meteorite
> store" ever ever again. Their position at the time was that no one
> could really know for sure which iron was which so theirs was what
> they said it was, and no one could really be sure other wise. Again I
> will admit that in the past I had purchased and traded meteorites from
> this same place that were authentic, I even sold actually Canyon
> Diablo meteorites to the same people.
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Ruben Garcia <mrmeteorite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oops, maybe that came out wrong!
>>
>> I meant to say your assumption of what happened was exactly right. Not
>> that I am so well versed in meteoritics - that assumption was a little
>> much. Hope that makes sense...
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Ruben Garcia <mrmeteorite at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the nice compliment - but you give me more credit than I
>>> deserve.
>>>
>>> However, you have it exactly right. I just clarified by saying I
>>> didn't buy - therefore I can't technically say he sold mislabels
>>> Campo's.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Ruben,
>>>>
>>>> I misunderstood. When you said that you and Mike tried to buy their
>>>> Diablos and they turned out to be Campos (and their Tolucas also), I
>>>> just assumed that they tried to hoodwink you - which would be futile
>>>> since you have forgotten more about meteorites than many people will
>>>> ever learn. I pictured some person presenting a Campo with a Diablo
>>>> label on it.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> MikeG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/24/10, Ruben Garcia <mrmeteorite at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't say he sold his very expensive Campo's labeled as Canyon
>>>>> Diablo's. For all I know he has never sold a mislabeled specimen. I
>>>>> didn't buy one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selling misrepresented meteorites is illegal. Has anyone decided to
>>>>>> pursue fraud charges against them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/24/10, Ruben Garcia <mrmeteorite at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The place on I-40 is called "Stewart's" http://www.meteoritesco.com/
>>>>>>> In 1998, as I recall they did have Canyon Diablos as well as other
>>>>>>> irons. However, more recently the meteorites are all Campo's and only
>>>>>>> the names have changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have lots of experience with irons it is often very easy to
>>>>>>> tell the difference without cutting. Although I don't think I could
>>>>>>> describe how to do so in words.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stewart was the original owner but was later sold to an African
>>>>>>> American couple. They now sell everything from meteorites to
>>>>>>> ostriches!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Greg Stanley
>>>>>>> <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron and List:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not all, but most. I remember one large one 20 lbs or so, it was
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> nice.
>>>>>>>> I believe the sign was yellow and had a shooting star painted on it.
>>>>>>>> There was a women running it and I think she was African-American. I
>>>>>>>> remember her telling me to put a magnet on a stick and search- she
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> gave me a magnet. She also gave me a small piece of this iron-shale
>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>> she said was from the crater. She even told me the area to search.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> stopped a few places but only looked a little, as I needed to get to
>>>>>>>> CA.
>>>>>>>> Again this was in 1997.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this sound familar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: rhartman04 at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>> To: stanleygregr at hotmail.com; altmann at meteorite-martin.de;
>>>>>>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] real jobs
>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:51:24 -0700
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Greg,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Were they all Canyon Diablos? I have heard of that place for years.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> had students of mine who have stopped there and told me about it,
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> wondered how they seem to always have a good supply of freshly dug
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> Canyon
>>>>>>>>> Diablos considering that hunting is illegal. I wondered whether
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> crater
>>>>>>>>> staff may be quietly involved in a commercial venture.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron Hartman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Greg Stanley"
>>>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] real jobs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found a meteorite store.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Hwy 40 in Arizona near Winslow. It was where I bought my first
>>>>>>>>> meteorite;
>>>>>>>>> a 23 gram Canyon Diablo. It was back in 1997. I was driving to CA
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> saw
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> big "Meteorites" sign, so I pulled in and she showed me hundreds of
>>>>>>>>> meteorites.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg S.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> From: altmann at meteorite-martin.de
>>>>>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:39:06 +0200
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] real jobs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm in recent times people on the list seem to be always somewhat
>>>>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>>>>> insulted...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would love for it to be my full time job
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's easy Joe. Just apply for a job as chief meteorite
>>>>>>>>>> procurement
>>>>>>>>>> operator at the museum in Perth.
>>>>>>>>>> I read in their annual report, that they want to enlarge their
>>>>>>>>>> meteorite
>>>>>>>>>> collection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reach an agreement for a probation period, based on your success.
>>>>>>>>>> Promise them to double the number of new meteorites in whole
>>>>>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>> year due acquisitions and ask for that performance a salary like a
>>>>>>>>>> curator
>>>>>>>>>> or half of a professor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't be afraid, the pressure to perform won't be that hard for
>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>> Bring them 2 NWA-OCs per year, you know, that 25$/kg-stuff and
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>> years or so an NWA-EUC and you'll keep your promise.
>>>>>>>>>> Hence you'll work only 3 days per year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If somebody will complain, refer to the Euromet-Aussie-expedition,
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> costs for the Millbillillies and Mundrabillas and weathered OCs
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> found,
>>>>>>>>>> were>1000$ a gram
>>>>>>>>>> and buy some Millbillillies and Mundrabillas for them from
>>>>>>>>>> professional
>>>>>>>>>> dealers to calm them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nooo, was just a joooooke. (Euromet made also science, science
>>>>>>>>>> costs).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, how would one define a "real profession"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe if one meets with ones meteorite activities' profit after
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> costs&taxes
>>>>>>>>>> the average U.S.-net-income per capita? (how high is it?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best!
>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PS: still I'm wondering, how the little chiropody shop in my
>>>>>>>>>> street
>>>>>>>>>> survives
>>>>>>>>>> the decades, but that I never found on Earth a meteorite store?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's raining goooold from the sky....?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Better: it's raining CALLUS from the sky !!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag
>>>>>>>>>> von
>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>> Kerchner
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juni 2010 18:39
>>>>>>>>>> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] real jobs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>>> What is ur deal? If you were ever successful hunting, maybe you
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> singing a different tune. I am insulted by that, I hunt in my free
>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> would love for it to be my full time job, but not possible for me.
>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> should think before you post next time.
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, aren't we about due for you to "quit" meteorites and
>>>>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> list for good, again? For the 15th time? It has been over a month
>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> last "quit".
>>>>>>>>>> Im sure im just one of many people you pissed off with you latest
>>>>>>>>>> post.
>>>>>>>>>> Think about what you say once in a while, it may be helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> joe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rock On!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruben Garcia
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites
>>>>>> http://www.galactic-stone.com
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rock On!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ruben Garcia
>>>>>
>>>>> Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rock On!
>>>
>>> Ruben Garcia
>>>
>>> Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rock On!
>>
>> Ruben Garcia
>>
>> Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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