[meteorite-list] New Iron (Ataxite) SHRAPNEL

From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:24:33 -0500
Message-ID: <9947ED19A27B4800ABCB9C2DBC6B4A32_at_ATARIENGINE2>

Not a quarrel, but the largest WWI single-device
(a mine) crater is 80 meters in diamter. Energy is
energy, whatever the source. The "bunker-busters" of
WWII could have made this crater without working up
a sweat. Could also have been an ammo dump. But
it wasn't. It appears to be a single kinetic non-artifact
ferrous object of celestial origin as claimed. No doubt.
The turbo-encabulator was not involved either...

Sterling K. Webb
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Iron (Ataxite) SHRAPNEL


Hello All,
I'd like to point out that the crater is 40 meters in diameter.
Regardless of the now obvious meteoric nature of the fragments
recovered, such a hole would necessitate the subterranean detonation
of a nuclear bomb.
I think we might have chemical explosives capable of making a crater
that big *now*, but we certainly didn't sixty years ago; nuclear would
have been the only way to go.
Something to keep in mind while y'all look for craters on google earth..
Regards,
Jason

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Schoner
<schoner at mybluelight.com> wrote:
> Right, I remember something about that. There was another where a guy
> dug up a live artillery round near Needles I think.
>
> But in North Africa, and North West Africa... I for one would be very
> cautious about digging up something that is found by a metal detector.
> All of Nothern Africa was involved in major WWII conflict.
>
> Here are some of the conflicts fought in North Africa:
>
> * Battles of Fort Capuzzo, - June, 1940 - November, 1942
> * Italian conquest of British Somaliland, - August, 1940
> * Operation Compass, December, 1940 - February, 1941
> * Battle of Keren, February, 1941 - April, 1941
> * Siege of Tobruk, April - November, 1941
> * Operation Brevity, May, 1941
> * Operation Skorpion, May, 1941
> * Operation Battleaxe, June, 1941
> * Battle of Gondar, November, 1941
> * Operation Crusader, November - December, 1941
> * Battle of Gazala, May - June, 1942
> * Battle of Bir Hakeim, May - June, 1942
> * First Battle of El Alamein, July, 1942
> * Second Battle of El Alamein, October - November, 1942
> * Operation Torch, November, 1942
> * Operation Terminal
> * Tunisia Campaign, November, 1942 - May, 1943
> *Battle of the Kasserine Pass
> *Battle of Sidi Bou Zid
> *Battle of Medenine
> *Operation Pugilist
> * Battle of El Guettar
> *Operation Vulcan
>
> Anywhere near these battlefields with a metal detector is asking for
> instant death.
>
> And lastly I have seen the photos of this ataxite, and that it is, no
> doubt. The inclusions tell all. But if anyone searches with a metal
> detector in North Africa... Do so with caution. And if you carefully
> dig up something that is roundish, tubular, or with a fuze... Back
> off...
>
> Steve
> www.petroslides.com
> IMCA #4470
>
>
>
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:30:41 -0700
> From: John Gwilliam <jkg2 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Iron (Ataxite) SHRAPNEL
> To: "Steve Schoner" <schoner at mybluelight.com>,
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Hello List,
> Good point Steve.
> This post reminded me of something that happened here in Arizona
> several years back. A new and enthusiastic meteorite hunter contacted
> me about a handful of iron fragments he had found in Yavapai County
> and thought (hoped) they might be meteorites. I sanded, polished and
> etched, or attempted to etch, one of the larger piece. When the
> etchant was applied, the polished surface turned blue. Odd. With
> the finders permission, the specimen was taken to ASU for more
> definitive testing. Components turned up that are not present in
> meteorites but were strikingly similar to industrial steel. Further
> research by the finder determined that a large steel boiler had
> exploded in the area back when mining was active in the area.
> The hunter learned some valuable lessons about researching areas you
> might be hunting in and that scientific study is imperative.
>
>
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