[meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!

From: John higgins <geohiggins_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:43:23 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <137606.3331.qm_at_web63208.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi Greg,

There is no double standard that applies to you and nobody else!


The last time I checked the meteorite classification is a scientific process. This purely scientific process does indeed have rules in place so that we can learn about new Meteorites in a logical manner. Not one based on emotional decisions. I think the proper etiquette for a fellow IMCA member is to:

First: Wait for the meteorite to first be provisional before you announce it

Secondly: Release the scientific data to the scientific community at large so they can examine the data

Third: Announce any possible pairings if any have been indicated and cross checked, mentioning in a clearly detailed manner why and how the two stones may be possibly paired. Also you should give time for the scientific community to confirm or prove wrong your possible pairing.

Fourth: Once the new meteorite is official, then carefully consider making a claim that can have a substantial impact on other IMCA members.

The last one is just a matter of common courtesy and professionalism
I think Jumping the whole scientific process and skipping right to the end, is indeed breaking the rules.

But that's just my 2 cents

John Higgins






----- Original Message ----
From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: John higgins <geohiggins at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 11:57:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!

wait a minute before you claim I am breaking rules... this was told to me by TONY IRVING after he tested it. He also tested NWA 2999.
Feel free to ask Tony.

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
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--- On Wed, 6/23/10, John higgins <geohiggins at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: John higgins <geohiggins at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:29 AM
> Very interesting meteorite,
> Congratulations Greg!
>
> I also agree with Adam. I would really like to see all the
> supporting data, what are the classification results and
> provisional number? I'ts not proper conduct for a IMCA
> member to make unsubstantiated claims or jump the gun on
> preliminary testing. I would like to see this new Angrite
> double and triple checked, and recognized as a official
> meteorite before such claims are made, especially since its
> a IMCA member making such claims. I wouldn't mind so much if
> the claimed pairings looked identical and had very strong
> supporting evidence, but one look at the new stone and this
> is clearly not the case. More testing must be done, and
> supporting evidence is nowhere to be found.
>
> I don't want to come off as mean, but I think this story is
> kind of ironic coming from a guy who just shot down every
> dealer who sells NWA 869, then turns around and breaks the
> rules, that damages the integrity of the classification
> process...
>
> Good Luck on the next steps of the classification process
> of this new and exciting meteorite!
>
> Have a Great Day!
> John Higgins
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 9:32:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent
> crystals... a WOW moment!
>
> I agree that it is a totally awesome meteorite and a rare
> one too. Congratulations!
>
> For future reference, it would be nice to wait a few extra
> days for a provisional number at the very least so that
> there is no confusion when announcing such an extraordinary
> find. I think collectors would be even more interested in a
> specimen that carried its own nomenclature. An Angrite,
> paired or not will stand on its own. Even though this
> meteorite is likely paired, it has its own special
> characteristics that may make it more desirable as
> illustrated in your images.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Adam
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