[meteorite-list] Hammer Question

From: GERALD FLAHERTY <GRF2_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:03:33 -0400
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Yea Jeff, but a Lunar, Martian, Vesta or can have quite a unique story, and you don't have to wash them off
On Jun 17, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Jeff Kuyken wrote:

> They are interesting questions but I see it one simple way. A "hammer" is interesting why? Think about it! Hammer is just a marketing term... plain and simple. What's one thing that all "hammers" have in common?
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> They hit something! Yes but wrong!
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> The one thing that all "hammers" have in common is a story. That's what we as people and collectors are interested in. Something that sets it apart from the norm. So my way of seeing it is that if a particular stone has a story about then that is the important part.
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> Matt's "cowpie" stone has every bit the same great story as a stone hitting a fence, a dirt road or whatever it might be.
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> The rest is just semantics.
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> Cheers,
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> Jeff
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> To: <mlblood at cox.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:58 AM
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> Michael and Listers,
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> Thank you for taking the time to answer my question Listers. I have one more example. Now lets say I make a shed out of tree branches that I found from the woods and the meteorite hits the shed, which is made of only tree branches. Does it make it a hammer? If so that would have to hold true with the dirt road as well. Both things are used by man, both things are constructed by man as a tool, and both items were made of natural items, dirt and tree branches.
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> Why I asked this question is because I was doing some research on Lost City meteorite fall and found this great research paper from 1971. It stated that the main mass was found on a dirt road. I got to thinking and asked myself, does that constitute a meteorite to be a hammer if it hits a dirt road.....
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> I have also read on Michael Bloods website that there had been talks about the Lost City meteorite fall and that a chunk of the meteorite happened to hit someones house and landed on the roof. I am wondering how small that meteorite had to been not to go through the roof or how big it was; which makes the Lost City meteorite fall a hammer.
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> There is one other thing that I had noticed about the history of Lost City. I have read in a few places that it took 10 years for the Prairie Network system to photograph the first meteorite fall in the USA. Is that 10 years the length of time it took to photograph the first fall or 10 years that the Prairie Network system operated for? Why I ask is because I read in a research paper that it only took 6 years to photograph the first meteorite fall with the Prairie Network system. Here is the link to the research paper, page 32:
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> http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1971SAOSR.336.....M/0000032.000.html?high=4bb95d172c21075
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> Shawn Alan
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> Hi Shawn,
> This is a question of where one chooses to draw the line.
> I know some that consider paved road hitters to be hammers.
> I am not one of them. However, technically, it does meet the
> Criteria. In fact, technically, a dirt road would meet the
> Criteria - but not for me - but as I said, it is a personal thing.
> PS: Some people also put a great deal of value on "near misses"
> Where someone actually witnesses a stone striking near them.
> An interesting category that interests me only somewhat, but
> Really excites some others.
> Hope this "answers" the question.
> Best wishes, Michael
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> On 6/15/10 11:52 PM, "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Hello Listers,
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>> Now I have a good question about hammer meteorite falls. It is said that a
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>> meteorite fall is a hammer fall if it hits something that is man made. Now if
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>> a meteorite lands on the surface of a serviced dirt road, a road made by man
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>> from dirt, rocks, oil to coat the road, or other processes to maintain the
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>> dirt road, wouldn't that constitute as being a hammer fall?
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>> Shawn Alan
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