[meteorite-list] Hammer Question

From: Michael Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:19:38 -0700
Message-ID: <C83E8DFA.F5EE%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Hi Richard,
        To each his own.
        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
        I am not sure why you collect meteorites, but for me it is the
"romance" or "adventure" or wonderment of actually knowing about
Where these extraterrestrial space travelers came from, where they
Hit the earth - the impact they had (physically and sociologically -
And sometimes, anthropologically), etc.
        To discount the importance another places on any given attribute
Belies a self centeredness that is unfortunate in that it prevents the
One doing so from understanding others and belies a lack of empathy -
Something most consider desirable attributes in a person. To call it
"silly" betrays a severe lack of respect for others if not down right
hostility.
        Sincerely sorry to hear you are trapped in such a world. Hope
The sun rises in your heart.
        Best wishes, Michael



On 6/16/10 1:57 PM, "fallingfusion at wi.rr.com" <fallingfusion at wi.rr.com>
wrote:

> I never understood the importance behind "hammer stones". Not only is it a
> stupid term that any child could come up with, but all meteorites have to land
> somewhere. Its inevitable that once in a while a home, vehicle, or other man
> made object will take a beating from one of these visitors.
>
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:01:15
> To: Richard Kowalski<damoclid at yahoo.com>; Meteorite
> List<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer Question
>
> Hi Richard and all.
> The definition you quote below is THE definition.
>> "Hammer" - any individual which is part of a hammer fall in which one or more
>> of the individuals struck an artifact, animal or human."
> (Note: a "hammer stone" is the specific stone that struck the
> artifact, animal or human)
> However, it is inevitable that some will consider a dirt road an
> Artifact and some will not. Even a paved road holds no interest to me,
> Though I would not unequivocally state it is not a hammer. Howsabout
> A fruit tree? Since fruit trees (at least the vast majority) are
> 1) all grown on rootstock budded to variety (I used to do this for work
> When I was young) and
> 2) said varieties almost always represent decades if not centuries of
> Hybridization....
> Is a meteorite that strikes such a tree a hammer? THAT is a
> Debatable question - the vast majority (dirt roads, paved roads,
> Etc) have more to do with when the given collector wishes to consider
> It a hammer. It is like, when is a meteorite an "oriented meteorite?"
> If it has very distinct aspects? If it has ANY discernable aspects of
> Orientation at all? (My soon to be released book will have hundreds of
> Photos showing the vast array of different aspects and degrees of
> Said aspects of orientation).
> Bottom line is, there are just some things that come down to
> The individual deciding for him/her self. Like when is a guy "tall"
> Or "short?" Or when is a woman "attractive" or a man "handsome?"
> You will get a lot of different answers depending on who is describing
> The attribute.
> No matter how specific the definition (and the above definition is
> Quite specific) you will have varying degrees of opinion of what constitutes
> An artifact.
> Best wishes, Michael
>
>
>
> On 6/16/10 10:33 AM, "Richard Kowalski" <damoclid at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Being one who only has a very modest interest in serious hammers (those
>> causing damage or hitting a person) the broad definition of "hammer" has
>> bothered me a bit as it seems so inclusive.
>>
>>> From Michael Blood's website:
>>
>> "Hammer" - any individual which is part of a hammer fall in which one or more
>> of the individuals struck an artifact, animal or human."
>>
>>
>> That would seem to me that anything stuck by a meteorite that is man-made
>> has
>> to be considered a hammer, including a dirt road, even if Michael has stated
>> he doesn't consider it. The example of a shed made exclusively of tree
>> branches would too have to be a hammer since the shed is an "artifact". The
>> cow patty? No. Or maybe yes if it has become fossilized?
>>
>> It seems to me either a very much large number of meteorites need to be
>> called
>> hammers, rapidly diluting the "cache" of the title, or a very much tighter
>> definition needs to be developed.
>>
>> Since I'm much more interested in what the meteorite is than where it
>> happened
>> to land, I have no dog in this fight, but if hammers were my area of
>> collecting, it obvious a much tighter definition is desirable.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Kowalski
>> Full Moon Photography
>> IMCA #1081
>>
>>
>>
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