[meteorite-list] Hammer Question

From: Shawn Alan <photophlow_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:45:27 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <817905.67276.qm_at_web35402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Listers,

This is a very interesting question I asked and its fun to see what people on the list think what makes a meteorite fall a hammer fall or not based on value or what it hits. From what I can tell is when fragments from a meteorite fall hit a man made object the meteorite fall is called a Hammer Fall. Good example, Park Forest meteorite fall/hammer fall. Not all stones hit a man made object but the ones that did, are called hammer stones and that's why the meteorite fall is referred to as a Hammer Fall.

Wouldn't it be cool if a meteorite landed on one of the Meteorite Mens driveway on their birth day.... I wonder how much that would go for?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
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[meteorite-list] Hammer Question
Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 16 14:10:16 EDT 2010

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Hey Eric,

I think you and I are looking at this question coming from rather different directions.

Your post is about valuation of hammers, and my post is about a definition, a subject which you kind of give short shrift to by saying we could get too "anal"ytical about.

To me, the thing that gets hammered, is irrelevant if the definition is so broad as to be nearly meaningless. To also include all the stones in a fall as part of a "hammer fall" seems ridiculously broad, to me that is. 100,000 stones fall, but a single 1g frag bounces against barn, so all the other 99,999 have been made "more special" in some way?

If that's what some collectors believe, that's fine with me. Again, that isn't my area of collecting.

I agree it is up to the collector to place a value on the hammer, depending on what object was struck, where it was located, and the story and or media coverage about the strike, but that is a different topic. One of valuation, not the definition of what a hammer is.

-- 
Richard Kowalski 
Full Moon Photography 
IMCA #1081are hammers. That to me is not 
> really a question. 
> 
> The question is how much more is a hammer stone "worth" if 
> it hit a shed (regardless of building materials) versus it 
> hitting a dirt road or even a paved road. Colletors 
> will probably not care much if it hits a road unless there's 
> history surrounding it. Now, if the hammer in question hits 
> a mailbox, then it's probably "worth" what someone will pay 
> for it. Simple. 
> 
> It would be up to the dealer who sells the meteorite as a 
> hammer as long as he/she explains what the "hammer stone" 
> impacted and the circumstances surrounding it, and then only 
> if the the dealer is honest with the collector/buyer, and 
> the collector/buyer chooses to spend more on it because it 
> hit something man-made would it be worth more. 
> 
> If being a hammer stone means a meteorite was worth less no 
> one would care what constitutes a hammer. 
> 
> The valuation is the degree of perceived importance. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Eric Wichman 
> Meteorites USA 
> www.meteoritesusa.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/15/2010 11:52 PM, Shawn Alan wrote: 
> > Hello Listers, 
> > 
> > Now I have a good question about hammer meteorite 
> falls. It is said that a meteorite fall is a hammer fall if 
> it hits something that is man made. Now if a meteorite lands 
> on the surface of a serviced dirt road, a road made by man 
> from dirt, rocks, oil to coat the road, or other processes 
> to maintain the dirt road, wouldn't that constitute as being 
> a hammer fall? 
> > 
> > Shawn Alan 
> > IMCA 1633 
> > eBaystore 
> > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 
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