[meteorite-list] "The Bankrupter Stone" - Was Hammer Question

From: cdtucson at cox.net <*cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:58:52 -0400 Message-ID: <20100616145852.YX2KN.785901.imail_at_fed1rmwml39> · cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com

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Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Perhaps I will coin the term "bankrupter stone" that will help.
> 
> A "Bankrupter stone" is one that hits a person, animal or object of value, then costs the buyer of said stone to empty out what they have in the bank to buy it.
> 
> TO qualify for such a grand title, the meteorite must do major damage to a person, animal or man made object that is not able to continue to perform duties like it did prior to the impact. 
> 
> See Claxton and Peekskill for examples of "Bankrupter stones"
> 
> Hope everyone is doing good today!
> 
> 
> Greg Catterton
> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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> 
> --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Richard Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Richard Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer Question
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 2:10 PM
> > Hey Eric,
> > 
> > I think you and I are looking at this question coming from
> > rather different directions.
> > 
> > Your post is about valuation of hammers, and my post is
> > about a definition, a subject which you kind of give short
> > shrift to by saying we could get too "anal"ytical about.
> > 
> > To me, the thing that gets hammered, is irrelevant if the
> > definition is so broad as to be nearly meaningless. To also
> > include all the stones in a fall as part of a "hammer fall"
> > seems ridiculously broad, to me that is. 100,000 stones
> > fall, but a single 1g frag bounces against barn, so all the
> > other 99,999 have been made "more special" in some way?
> > 
> > If that's what some collectors believe, that's fine with
> > me. Again, that isn't my area of collecting.
> > 
> > I agree it is up to the collector to place a value on the
> > hammer, depending on what object was struck, where it was
> > located, and the story and or media coverage about the
> > strike, but that is a different topic. One of valuation, not
> > the definition of what a hammer is.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Richard Kowalski
> > Full Moon Photography
> > IMCA #1081are hammers. That to me is not
> > > really a question.
> > > 
> > > The question is how much more is a hammer stone
> > "worth" if
> > > it hit a shed (regardless of building materials)
> > versus it
> > > hitting a dirt road or even a paved road.? Colletors
> > > will probably not care much if it hits a road unless
> > there's
> > > history surrounding it. Now, if the hammer in question
> > hits
> > > a mailbox, then it's probably "worth" what someone
> > will pay
> > > for it. Simple.
> > > 
> > > It would be up to the dealer who sells the meteorite
> > as a
> > > hammer as long as he/she explains what the "hammer
> > stone"
> > > impacted and the circumstances surrounding it, and
> > then only
> > > if the the dealer is honest with the collector/buyer,
> > and
> > > the collector/buyer chooses to spend more on it
> > because it
> > > hit something man-made would it be worth more.
> > > 
> > > If being a hammer stone means a meteorite was worth
> > less no
> > > one would care what constitutes a hammer.
> > > 
> > > The valuation is the degree of perceived importance.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Eric Wichman
> > > Meteorites USA
> > > www.meteoritesusa.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 6/15/2010 11:52 PM, Shawn Alan wrote:
> > > > Hello Listers,
> > > > 
> > > > Now I have a good question about hammer
> > meteorite
> > > falls. It is said that a meteorite fall is a hammer
> > fall if
> > > it hits something that is man made. Now if a meteorite
> > lands
> > > on the surface of a serviced dirt road, a road made by
> > man
> > > from dirt, rocks, oil to coat the road, or other
> > processes
> > > to maintain the dirt road, wouldn't that constitute as
> > being
> > > a hammer fall?
> > > > 
> > > > Shawn Alan
> > > > IMCA 1633
> > > > eBaystore
> > > > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
> > >
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