[meteorite-list] Lovina "debate?"

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:57:47 +0200
Message-ID: <BBAEBE8F31904BA1AC5371E7BAF94347_at_thinkcentre>

What a frustration, Darryl, it would be if cosmogenic nuclide testing would
turn out that Lovina is only part of a common spaceship from Beteigeutze.

My very best,
Matthias


----- Original Message -----
From: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>
To: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
Cc: "Kevin Kichinka" <marsrox at gmail.com>; "Meteorite List"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lovina "debate?"


>
>
> In response to Mike's query, Lovina revisited:
>
> LOVINA
> Iron (ataxite, ungrouped)
> Found 1981
> Bali, Indonesia
>
>
> --Lovina is highly anomalous, which in-and-of-itself plants a seed of
> doubt;
> --Lovina was certified as a meteorite by the Nomenclature Committee;
> --An abstract on Lovina appeared in Lunar and Planetary Science;
> --John Wasson has stated "Metals made by man will differ from meteorites
> in terms of several elements and element ratios," and declared Lovina is
> most likely a meteorite as the elemental signature of every single
> element as well as every ratio between the elements fit perfectly with a
> meteorite's signature;
> --Ted Bunch declared this is most probably a meteorite, "The odds of a
> terrestrial rock having every element and every elemental ratio match a
> meteorite's composition are akin to possessing a winning Powerball
> ticket";
> --Lovina is currently undergoing cosmogenic nuclide testing;
> --If the radiation data comes back positive, Lovina is incontrovertibly a
> meteorite;
> --If the radiation data comes back negative, Lovina is probably a
> meteorite but there will forever be a seed of doubt;
>
>
> For further information, go to http://www.macovich.com/Lovina.htm
>
>
> All best / Darryl
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Michael Blood wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin, Darryl & all,
>> Can anyone tell me why there is ANY debate over whether
>> Or not Lovina is or is not a meteorite? It is listed in the Meteorite
>> Bulitin as a meteorite, so, what is this debate based on and
>> Who is arguing the issue?
>> RSVP anyone who knows...
>> Thanks, Michael
>>
>>
>> On 6/8/10 10:58 AM, "Kevin Kichinka" <marsrox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I notice that a slice of Darryl's lovely Lovina met was recently
>>> offered at auction. Reading the prose associated with its consignment,
>>> I wonder if clarification is in order.
>>>
>>> "In addition, Lovina is also one of a handful of underwater meteorite
>>> finds, and is the only meteorite find recovered from a body of water
>>> where there was not an additional meteorite from the same event first
>>> recovered from the shoreline."
>>>
>>> I lived in Florida for many years and have an interest in the few
>>> meteorites recovered there.
>>>
>>> According to the Cat of Mets 5th Edition - "Okechobee L4 (Palm Beach
>>> County, Florida) - Fragments weighing about 1kg were brought up in a
>>> net some 0.75 miles from the shore, G.P. Merrill (1916)."
>>>
>>> The body of water is Lake Okeechobee. There is no record of specimens
>>> ever having been recovered on shore.
>>>
>>> Kevin Kichinka
>>> MARSROX at gmail.com
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