[meteorite-list] Lovina "debate?"

From: Darryl Pitt <darryl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:04:58 -0400
Message-ID: <2D4E9C03-E74D-47DD-8BDF-873A69098868_at_dof3.com>

In response to Mike's query, Lovina revisited:

LOVINA
Iron (ataxite, ungrouped)
Found 1981
Bali, Indonesia


--Lovina is highly anomalous, which in-and-of-itself plants a seed of
doubt;
--Lovina was certified as a meteorite by the Nomenclature Committee;
--An abstract on Lovina appeared in Lunar and Planetary Science;
--John Wasson has stated "Metals made by man will differ from
meteorites in terms of several elements and element ratios," and
declared Lovina is most likely a meteorite as the elemental signature
of every single element as well as every ratio between the elements
fit perfectly with a meteorite's signature;
--Ted Bunch declared this is most probably a meteorite, "The odds of a
terrestrial rock having every element and every elemental ratio match
a meteorite's composition are akin to possessing a winning Powerball
ticket";
--Lovina is currently undergoing cosmogenic nuclide testing;
--If the radiation data comes back positive, Lovina is
incontrovertibly a meteorite;
--If the radiation data comes back negative, Lovina is probably a
meteorite but there will forever be a seed of doubt;


For further information, go to http://www.macovich.com/Lovina.htm


All best / Darryl





On Jun 8, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Michael Blood wrote:

> Hi Kevin, Darryl & all,
> Can anyone tell me why there is ANY debate over whether
> Or not Lovina is or is not a meteorite? It is listed in the Meteorite
> Bulitin as a meteorite, so, what is this debate based on and
> Who is arguing the issue?
> RSVP anyone who knows...
> Thanks, Michael
>
>
> On 6/8/10 10:58 AM, "Kevin Kichinka" <marsrox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I notice that a slice of Darryl's lovely Lovina met was recently
>> offered at auction. Reading the prose associated with its
>> consignment,
>> I wonder if clarification is in order.
>>
>> "In addition, Lovina is also one of a handful of underwater meteorite
>> finds, and is the only meteorite find recovered from a body of water
>> where there was not an additional meteorite from the same event first
>> recovered from the shoreline."
>>
>> I lived in Florida for many years and have an interest in the few
>> meteorites recovered there.
>>
>> According to the Cat of Mets 5th Edition - "Okechobee L4 (Palm Beach
>> County, Florida) - Fragments weighing about 1kg were brought up in a
>> net some 0.75 miles from the shore, G.P. Merrill (1916)."
>>
>> The body of water is Lake Okeechobee. There is no record of specimens
>> ever having been recovered on shore.
>>
>> Kevin Kichinka
>> MARSROX at gmail.com
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