[meteorite-list] A Twisted Meteor Trail Over Tenerife
From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: <CD60C76B6DDD4FEC8BFE5D645C1115D0_at_ATARIENGINE2> Rob, Eric, List, etc. If there was a "bump" during the last few seconds of a 1-minute exposure, the exposure of the right-most 97% of the trail would be 97% complete -- and straight. Only the left end would be "wiggled." Wiggling of the right end would be very, very faint, if visible at all. Not a bump. However, the sinusoidal "motion" can be traced back to the start of the trail. There are slightly more than 8 full cycles recorded, each of increasing amplitude. This yields a period between 7.0 and 7.5 seconds per cycle. Such a frequency combined with increasing amplitude could be attributed to vibration from machinery starting up, like that found in observatories (where the photo was taken). But I think it's more likely to be seismic -- in the right frequency range and such a wave would increase in amplitude as it passed a spot. It would never be noticed by a person. I think the Canary Islands wiggled... Sterling K. Webb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matson, Robert D." <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Twisted Meteor Trail Over Tenerife > Hi Eric, > >> ... physically speaking isn't the image explainable by an oblong or >> asymmetrical meteoroid tumbling through the atmosphere then twisting >> into a spiral by the aerodynamic forces exerted on it. Not unlike a >> curve-ball thrown by a pitcher? > > If a physical object were moving like this, it would be experiencing > forces far greater than the deceleration due to atmospheric drag -- > forces which no small meteoroid could survive. You have to appreciate > the magnitude of the transverse motion required by the meteoroid to > produce that amount of "squiggle" at a range of 300+ km. You're > talking > a kilometer, maybe more -- PER oscillation. If the meteoroid is > spiraling in, it's completing a circle of radius 500 meters in perhaps > a tenth of a second. That means a velocity of ~30 km/sec (on top of > the > forward velocity of the meteoroid), which corresponds to an angular > acceleration of 1800 km/sec^2. That's over 180,000 G's. > >> The only question I had was the frame rate/shutter speed at which >> this >> image was captured... If the image frame was taken in 1/25 of a > second, >> there a big difference in the elapsed time between a five minute > exposure, >> which this image does not seem to be from. So I looked it up... > >> The data from the image states: >> Canon EOS 20D >> Shutter Speed: 1.0 (meaning 1 second, not one minute) > > No, this was a 1-minute exposure. (The easy visibility of the Milky > Way > in the fisheye image should be enough to convince anyone that this was > not a 1-second exposure.) > >> If the camera/tripod was bumped or jarred during the exposure please >> explain why ALL the stars in the photo aren't "squiggly" too. Only >> the smoke train is. > > No, the stars are too -- it's just that you can only notice it with > the > brighter stars. The reason for that is that the duration of the mount > vibration was probably only a couple seconds before it completely > damped > out. So you have 58 seconds of stationary integration, and 2 seconds > of > oscillating integration -- roughly a 30:1 ratio. If the limiting > magnitude of the image is, say +7, then only stars brighter than > about magnitude +3.5 will show the vibrational smear. > > --Rob > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Wed 02 Jun 2010 07:40:23 PM PDT |
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