[meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

From: dave carothers <carothersdl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:53:21 -0400
Message-ID: <8A5D462D9F664F59A1AE5B299D1F7634_at_your291etg47cr>

I never saw the movie, but there are plenty of historical references to
cannoneers using scrap of all kinds (metal, glass, rocks, gravel, lengths of
chain, etc.). The common "commercially-made" equivalent ammunition was
grapeshot and canister rounds. Getting hit with grapeshot or a canister
round would definitely make your eyes water.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at htn.net>
To: "dave carothers" <carothersdl at gmail.com>; <countdeiro at earthlink.net>;
"bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>; <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition


> Wasn't there a scene in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where the dudes shoved
> a bunch of metallic objects into the canon and fired it at the opposing
> ship hitting one of the more hapless pirates in his wooden eye with a
> fork!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dave carothers" <carothersdl at gmail.com>
> To: <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; "bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>;
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
>
>
>> It wouldn't be practical to melt meteorites to make musket balls. That's
>> not to say that iron meteorites couldn't be used as ammunition just as
>> they
>> are. The blunderbuss had a large enough bore and muzzle to accpt smaller
>> meteorites as is. In fact it wasn't uncommon for users of the
>> blunderbuss
>> to load it with rocks, nails, and anythnig else that happened to be
>> around.
>> Same with canons.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>> To: "bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>; <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
>>
>>
>>> Bill says "...just about any firearm".
>>>
>>> Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat balls made of
>>> meteorite material, or anything else for that matter. It wouldn't
>>> surprise
>>> me if we learned that some enterprising conquistador had heated up some
>>> Campo and used the balls in his matchlock..or a canon.
>>>
>>> Does anyone care to expound on what temp one would have to heat an iron
>>> meteorite to be able to pour the melt into a mold to make a musket ball?
>>> Could different classes of irons have different melt temperatures? Would
>>> inclusions be easily seperated?
>>>
>>> Count Deiro
>>> IMCA 3536
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM
>>>>To: meteoritemike at gmail.com
>>>>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Projectiles made from meteoric iron and it's related inclusions would
>>>>destroy the barrel of just about any firearm.
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Count and List,
>>>>I wonder, has anyone ever fashioned bullets out of iron meteorites?
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>MikeG
>>>>
>>>>On 7/27/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Attention List!
>>>>> meteoritemike at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites
>>>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>> reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains
>>>>> indoors.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens
>>>>>
>>>>> Count Deiro
>>>>> IMCA 3536
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