[meteorite-list] NWA 5363 UNGROUPED OR BRACHNITE

From: countdeiro at earthlink.net <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:55:40 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <656529.1280094940827.JavaMail.root_at_wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mr. Hughes,

Welcome to the List. I loved the picture you drew of a beautiful girl and her toilet habits. An older member of my family once helped me get over my youthful obsession with a certain brunette using the same example.

Give the List a chance. It is many things to many people. Read, enjoy and learn more of what interests you...and hit delete for the rest,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry Hughes <bhughes at sneezy.com>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 4:41 AM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5363 UNGROUPED OR BRACHNITE
>
>On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Barry Hughes <bhughes5551 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can see...I don't know this. ?I do know that research for new and
>> old find is utmost importance..I can understand that.
>> I don't know the particulars and should maybe keep my mouth shut, but
>> I can tell you that for the uninformed, this bickering is not the best
>> thing for the new collector.
>> The List should maybe be something someone follows later in their hobby ...like finally learning your beautiful girlfriend does actually
>> take a shit sometimes...:)
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:02 AM, MEM <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>
>>> ?The people about to make a lot of ?money..or not..don't paint a pretty picture
>>> here...
>>> ?Is this what the list is ?about?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope. ? Nor is it what the thread is about.
>>> Money could be an artifact of the outcome but the issue of scientific pairing is
>>> two fold:
>>> Paring legitimizes interchangeable research using a sample from either stone.
>>> Pairing does not skew the data plots for composition/chemistry/etc by counting a
>>> sample more than once.
>>> ( I know this will shock some here to learn that meteorites are not just
>>> fashionable collectibles but are in-fact used in scientific research--Who'd a
>>> thought, eah?)
>>>
>>> The converse is that uninformed and unscientific "visual pairing" does not
>>> satisfy the requirements of the above needs.
>>>
>>> On the commercial issue, it is a long and costly process to do meteorite
>>> petrology-- most always paid for by one of the owners. ?To be paired the
>>> chemistry/petrology of all named meteorites must be researched to establish
>>> compelling evidence of pairing. ?Exceptions: a meteorite fall on a area known to
>>> contain no other meteorites, the stream of visually identical debris which is
>>> recovered in a short time, or the stones can be physically matched--these can be
>>> presumed to be paired unless tere is evidence to the contrary.
>>>
>>> Claims of pairing which are not scientifically validated is akin to plagerizing
>>> and is taking both scientific and commercial value from another who did go
>>> through the process.
>>>
>>>
>>> In "reverse pairing" or "unpairing" there is one atrocity that I still am
>>> disgusted over: a meteorite find was recovered over an area. ?It was entirely
>>> reassembled to compose a complete meteorite: ?known as the "meteorite puzzle".
>>> This is the only known case in history. Were it kept together, a lot of research
>>> could have been done-- cosmic ray penetration, shear stress, understanding why a
>>> particular meteorite fragmented into 17 pieces, and etc. ?But some self-styled
>>> meteorte dealer wannabe--(wait maybe this was while he was a non dealer? ?Nope!
>>> This was while a dealer)--whatever-- ?he so "loves" meteorites being "shared"
>>> that he bought the Puzzle for his collection-- never to ever sell it he assured
>>> the seller. ?Then he promptly put all 17 pieces on ebay as individual auctions
>>> to be sold to 17 different buyers--DESTROYING the scientific rarity.
>>>
>>>
>>> Elton
>>>
>>>
>>
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