[meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 "The King of Angrites"forsale - AD

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:46:05 +0200
Message-ID: <002e01cb2993$77ee0510$6502a8c0_at_name86d88d87e2>

It's not my conclusion :-)
I'm happy and content with our (at least most of them) HEDs originating from
Vesta.
And I almost can't wait - until Dawn will finally arrive at Vesta next year!

Go Dawn, go!!
Martin

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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn
Alan
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?Martin and Listers,
?
The paper?you provided that "postulates" that HEDS?are from Mercury and
Angrites are from Venus suggests that from the solar system zonation model
that would be the case which is in question, but not to suggest that those
classes are from Mercury or Venus but that the model is flawed, which?needs
to be reevaluated. Hence, the conclusion is mocking the?solar system
zonation model by your postulated statement.??
?
:)~
Shawn Alan

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[meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 "The King of Angrites"for sale -
ADMartin Altmann altmann at meteorite-martin.de
Thu Jul 22 07:00:49 EDT 2010


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Huh, I found even a paper, which postulates, that the HEDs are from Mercury
and the angrites from Venus....

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/otp2004/pdf/3012.pdf



;-)
Martin



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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason

Utas
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2010 11:27
An: Shawn Alan; Meteorite-list; Adam Hupe
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Shawn,
Well-said -
But I can't emphasize enough the fact that such large bodies existed
in large numbers in the early solar system. That much is obvious from
the large numbers of ungrouped (and grouped) differentiated
achondrites that we have in our collections here on earth, as well as
from all various types of iron meteorites, which represent the cores
of diffeentiated planetismals. All in all, we have meteorites that
suggest well over 30-40 such bodies in the early solar system, and
computer-run models in some cases suggest hundreds of such bodies.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/education/events/cowen1d.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System#For

mation_of_planets

Note that wikipedia suggests 50-100 such bodies. I wouldn't usually
reference wikipedia for something like this, but see references 35-36
for the article - that's actually a decent estimate that's been backed
up by some serious work done by experts -- it's not just a crap
wikipedia reference.

So, angrites may be from Mercury. If we say that, regardless of their
composition and history, they just needed to be from a large
planetismal capable of some metamorphic activity, then we've got a
1/50 to 1/100 chance that angrites are, in fact, from Mercury.

The trouble is that their chemistry and age suggest that they're not
from Mercury.

I agree. They *might* be from Mercury. And yes, some smart people
have said that they *might* be from Mercury.
But it seems to me that this article is being deemed credible because
of its authors, and not because of what it actually says.


>I do not refute Melinda Hutson's article that was never peer reviewed and

contains several errors according to the classifying scientists. I asked
scientists about the article and they stated, it is obvious that she didn't
read
the original peer reviewed abstract carefully, even mistaking the type of
petrology that was discussed using formulas that simply do not apply to the
texture NWA 2999 exhibits.

I'd like to know what these errors were, and how the error might have
affected her conclusions. Perhaps Adam or someone else would be
willing to explain her errors and how they suggest that angrites are
actually from Mercury.

Seems like this is the perfect sort of topic for the list...

Regards,
Jason









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