[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men schedules in the UK

From: martin goff <msgmeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:01:51 +0000
Message-ID: <2b6f707d1002250101h3dcea995vd7cfc22f58767b47_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

To everyone in the UK, I have found the schedule info for Meteorite
Men being broadcast in the UK. The channel is called 'Quest' which is
a Discovery channel without having the 'Discovery' name. Its on Sky
channel 154 and on Freeview channel 38.

It airs on Monday nights at 21:00hrs, episode 2 is being shown Monday
1st March and episode 3 on Monday 8th March. Thats as far as the
schedules show on the website (www.questtv.co.uk) so i assume it will
carry on each week at the same time and that episode 1 has already
been shown.

Make a date in your diaries folks!

Cheers

Martin

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> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:01:44 -0700
> Subject:?[meteorite-list] "Meteorite Men" Season Finale Tonight
> Dear Listees:
>
> Viewers in the US might like to know that the Season One finale of "Meteorite Men" will air tonight on Science Channel at 9 pm Eastern & Pacific; 7 pm in Arizona. Please check local listing for details. Repeats will continue on Wednesday at the same time, and additional showtimes can be found here:
>
> http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men
>
> Our guest stars in this evening's episode include Mr. Meteorite himself -- Ruben Garcia -- and his fabulous meteorite dog, Hopper; world renowned meteorite specialist Dr. Alan Rubin of UCLA; Marc Fries of ?the National Weather Service in Oxnard explaining how Doppler radar was used to locate the West, Texas fall zone; and M-List members Suzanne and LIsa Marie Morrison. Oh, and Steve manages to zoom off to Virginia to investigate the recent fall there. It's quite the action-packed episode and I hope you enjoy it.
>
> Also, viewers in the UK, please check QUEST (Freeview Channel 38) which is evidently airing the "Meteorite Men" pilot. Three old school friends emailed me from England yesterday saying: "We just saw you on the telly" ?: ) ?That's all I know, sorry.
>
> And before anyone asks:
>
> - No, we do not have other international air dates yet, but we hope we will soon or one day
>
> - No, we do not have a date for DVD release yet, but we hope we will soon or one day
>
> I only know what they tell me ?: )
>
> And for our friends in and around Tucson, just a reminder that the final "MM" screening party, for this season, will take place at Sky Bar Tucson tonight: 6 pm cocktails; 7 pm screening:
>
> http://meteoritemen.com/events/meteorite-men-premiere.htm
>
>
> And finally, for now, it was GREAT to see so many of you here for the 2010 Tucson gem show. I hope you had as much fun as I did, and also I hope you got more sleep that I did. Only 48 weeks 'til Tucson 2011.
>
>
> Cheers from the Old Pueblo,
>
> Geoff N.
>
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> From:?Greg Stanley <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
> To:?<meteoritemike at gmail.com>, <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:31:54 -0800
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] La Grange Pics
>
> Ol La Grange TX.? I used to go there all the time to hunt petrified wood and palm.? I found pieces so big I could barely carry them.? My roommate (years ago) had relatives living there.? I remember a roadside chicken joint that had the best hamburgers ever.? There were some towns nearby where Tektites had been found - I never found any though.
>
> Greg S.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:36:10 -0500
>> From: meteoritemike at gmail.com
>> To: joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com
>> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] La Grange Pics
>>
>> A rare video of LaGrange -
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnMFOeEPUks
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On 2/24/10, JoshuaTreeMuseum ?wrote:
>>> Matt:
>>>
>>> Here are some La Grange pics from Buchwald's Iron Meteorites.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/012.jpg
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/z.jpg
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/z1.jpg
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/z2.jpg
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/z3.jpg
>>> http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/z4.jpg
>>>
>>> Phil Whitmer
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> To:?Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, Notkin <geoking at notkin.net>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:12:41 +0000
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] "Meteorite Men" Season Finale Tonight
> Hi Geoff,
>
> Looking at the listings for Quest it states "New Series" next to the pilot show...so hoping that the rest will be shown too...will find out when next weeks listings appear.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Graham E, UK.
>
> ---- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
>> Dear Listees:
>>
>> Viewers in the US might like to know that the Season One finale of
>> "Meteorite Men" will air tonight on Science Channel at 9 pm Eastern &
>> Pacific; 7 pm in Arizona. Please check local listing for details.
>> Repeats will continue on Wednesday at the same time, and additional
>> showtimes can be found here:
>>
>> http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men
>>
>> Our guest stars in this evening's episode include Mr. Meteorite
>> himself -- Ruben Garcia -- and his fabulous meteorite dog, Hopper;
>> world renowned meteorite specialist Dr. Alan Rubin of UCLA; Marc Fries
>> of ?the National Weather Service in Oxnard explaining how Doppler
>> radar was used to locate the West, Texas fall zone; and M-List members
>> Suzanne and LIsa Marie Morrison. Oh, and Steve manages to zoom off to
>> Virginia to investigate the recent fall there. It's quite the action-
>> packed episode and I hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> Also, viewers in the UK, please check QUEST (Freeview Channel 38)
>> which is evidently airing the "Meteorite Men" pilot. Three old school
>> friends emailed me from England yesterday saying: "We just saw you on
>> the telly" ?: ) ?That's all I know, sorry.
>>
>> And before anyone asks:
>>
>> - No, we do not have other international air dates yet, but we hope we
>> will soon or one day
>>
>> - No, we do not have a date for DVD release yet, but we hope we will
>> soon or one day
>>
>> I only know what they tell me ?: )
>>
>> And for our friends in and around Tucson, just a reminder that the
>> final "MM" screening party, for this season, will take place at Sky
>> Bar Tucson tonight: 6 pm cocktails; 7 pm screening:
>>
>> http://meteoritemen.com/events/meteorite-men-premiere.htm
>>
>>
>> And finally, for now, it was GREAT to see so many of you here for the
>> 2010 Tucson gem show. I hope you had as much fun as I did, and also I
>> hope you got more sleep that I did. Only 48 weeks 'til Tucson 2011.
>>
>>
>> Cheers from the Old Pueblo,
>>
>> Geoff N.
>>
>> www.aerolite.org
>> www.meteoritemen.com
>> www.meteoriteblog.org
>>
>>
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> From:?Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>
> To:?Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:22:31 -0500
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 24, 2010 Question
>
>
> Hi Shawn, List....
>
> I'm hardly an expert and I feel especially uncomfortable being a stand-in while true experts lurk, but as your inquiry was addressed to me, I'll do my best.
>
> I should restate at the outset, the compositional fingerprint of an iron meteorite is highly specific, and it was on this basis that John Wasson reaffirmed Lovina's certification. ?It should also be noted that Tim McCoy, who posed fascinating questions concerning Lovina, has acceded to Wasson's data and interpretation.
>
> Now, I hope you don't mind if I respond by thread....
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Shawn Alan wrote:
>
>> Darryl and List,
>>
>> Thank you for the post you made about the weathering and oxidation features of the Lovina's meteorite. I have been reading all the posts and been looking over all the great images that have been posted about this unique features present on the surface of the Lovina meteorite and I have some questions.
>>
>> It seems to me and stated from others that the meteorite was discovered to be in salt water for many century's and the textural surface is caused by terrestrialized oxidization which this process is also prevalent with inside the specimen from the holes where nodules were before. Now at what point does this process make a meteorites' free iron oxidized to a point when it has became terrestrialized?
>
> I am unqualified to answer this question.
>
>> ?From the image that Michael Johnson posted from Rock from Space picture of the day, ?http://www.rocksfromspace.org/LOVINA_METEORITE.html
>> it is prevalent that oxidization has taken place. Also, it is stated from the write up from Michael Johnson post that, "Lovina's stature as one of the most exotic meteorites is reconfirmed. An ataxite, Lovina contains the fourth highest nickel percentage of all meteorites and is the only meteorite known to feature ziggurat (stepped pyramidal) structures---the result of immersion in the tropical shallows of Bali for untold centuries."
>>
>> Now from my understanding, Ataxite iron meteorites structural bands disappear and the meteorite becomes structureless when nickel is 13 percent or higher within the a iron meteorite. However, when viewing the high nickel Lovina's slice cut image, one might observe the surface is litters with structure, almost resembling widmanstatten structure. Now is this structure the cause of oxidization within the meteorite? If so wouldnt the meteorite be terrestrailized to the point that these unique features are nothing more then destruction to a meteorite?
>
> We are certainly bearing witness to the "destruction" of the meteorite, but of a very specific meteorite---one with tetrataenite and a latticework of iron sulfide inclusions---two features which are unusual in and of themselves. ?Phrased another way, it is my understanding that if you threw a Gibeon or most any other iron meteorite into the same waters and poked around several hundred years hence, you would not find the object now before us. ?A lot of serendipity was at work in the (de)formation of Lovina.
>>
>> Why ?I ask is because a lot of NWA meteorite fragments are tossed aside or neglected for the fact that these specimens have no significance importance because they have became terrestrailized from oxidization. Many institutions don't even touch NWA meteorites these days. But why would this oxidization feature make ?"Lovina's stature as one of the most exotic meteorites." ? But on the other hand, this physical feature could help scientist to identiy other meteorites underwater and could bring new discoveries to science.
>
> Morphologically, Lovina is matchless and therefore necessarily a member of the exotic meteorite club; two museums have thus far reached out to me based on this morphological singularity. ?Also keep in mind that Lovina is an ungrouped iron, every one of which, by definition, are pretty darn exotic.
>
>
> Hoping this was remotely helpful. ? ;-)
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Darryl
>
>>
>>
>> [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 24, 2010
>> Darryl Pitt darryl at dof3.com
>> Wed Feb 24 13:12:52 EST 2010
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear List and Mike, Adam, Carl...
>>
>> The voids remarked upon are not vesicles but an artifact of
>> weathering. The depressions seen are the end points where by water
>> penetrated the meteorite and you just aren't able to see the entry
>> point (which were the crevasses between the ziggurat structures).
>>
>> For vug lovers--and I count myself among you!: Lovina does indeed
>> contain a blanketing of tiny vugs, which are fun to have but are
>> actuality only fully oxidized iron sulfide pockets. Remember, Lovina
>> was in saltwater for centuries, if not longer. If you enlarge and
>> scan the image of the cut surface, you can see where the sulfide
>> remains in the matrix and where it oxidized out.
>>
>> As expressed by J. Wasson, the compositional fingerprint (the
>> meteorite's DNA, if you will) is the incontrovertible smoking gun.
>>
>>
>> All best / Darryl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Very interesting, what are voids (vesicles) doing in an iron
>>
>>> meteorite? I have only heard of sparse vugs found in one iron
>>
>>> before and thought vesicles would most certainly disqualify an
>>
>>> object from being an iron meteorite. Has cosmic ray exposure
>>
>>> testing been done? It would be interesting to see how long this
>>
>>> object has been in space.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
>>
>>
>>> HI Adam and List,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> This is a fascinating specimen. Surely it represents a
>>
>>> previously-unknown parent body.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> While the presence of vugs/vesicles suggests the specimen was not
>>
>>> formed in a vacuum, maybe there was some gases present during the
>>
>>> formation.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> For example, suppose a large comet slammed into a predominately-iron
>>
>>> asteroid. Comets contain large volumes of material that can
>>
>>> sublimate, and maybe during the collision, some of this gaseous
>>
>>> material injected into the iron body. The heat and/or shock resulting
>>
>>> from the collision provided inroads for the cometary material by
>>
>>> expanding existing fissures or faults. Then the intermingled material
>>
>>> rapidly cooled, forming the vesicles we see now. The massive shock
>>
>>> and/or heating would also wipe out the native widmanstatten pattern
>>
>>> present in the iron body, leaving behind an ataxite-like mass without
>>
>>> the typical crystallization patterns......???
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Then this curious mass fell to Earth and experienced
>>
>>> weathering/alteration to provide the strange external appearance we
>>
>>> see now.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Or, to play devil's advocate, perhaps this is a very atypical type of
>>
>>> industrial slag unlike any seen before. Is there any industry
>>
>>> present in the area where this mass was found?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Best regards,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> MikeG
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> From:?<fallingfusion at wi.rr.com>
> To:?meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:58:33 -0500
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] "Meteorite Men" Season Finale Tonight
> Here In S.E. WI (Time Warner)... reruns begin next Wednesday (March 3rd), starting with the "Buzzard Coulee" episode.
>
> Ryan
>
> ---- ensoramanda at ntlworld.com wrote:
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> Looking at the listings for Quest it states "New Series" next to the pilot show...so hoping that the rest will be shown too...will find out when next weeks listings appear.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Graham E, UK.
>>
>> ---- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
>> > Dear Listees:
>> >
>> > Viewers in the US might like to know that the Season One finale of
>> > "Meteorite Men" will air tonight on Science Channel at 9 pm Eastern &
>> > Pacific; 7 pm in Arizona. Please check local listing for details.
>> > Repeats will continue on Wednesday at the same time, and additional
>> > showtimes can be found here:
>> >
>> > http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men
>> >
>> > Our guest stars in this evening's episode include Mr. Meteorite
>> > himself -- Ruben Garcia -- and his fabulous meteorite dog, Hopper;
>> > world renowned meteorite specialist Dr. Alan Rubin of UCLA; Marc Fries
>> > of ?the National Weather Service in Oxnard explaining how Doppler
>> > radar was used to locate the West, Texas fall zone; and M-List members
>> > Suzanne and LIsa Marie Morrison. Oh, and Steve manages to zoom off to
>> > Virginia to investigate the recent fall there. It's quite the action-
>> > packed episode and I hope you enjoy it.
>> >
>> > Also, viewers in the UK, please check QUEST (Freeview Channel 38)
>> > which is evidently airing the "Meteorite Men" pilot. Three old school
>> > friends emailed me from England yesterday saying: "We just saw you on
>> > the telly" ?: ) ?That's all I know, sorry.
>> >
>> > And before anyone asks:
>> >
>> > - No, we do not have other international air dates yet, but we hope we
>> > will soon or one day
>> >
>> > - No, we do not have a date for DVD release yet, but we hope we will
>> > soon or one day
>> >
>> > I only know what they tell me ?: )
>> >
>> > And for our friends in and around Tucson, just a reminder that the
>> > final "MM" screening party, for this season, will take place at Sky
>> > Bar Tucson tonight: 6 pm cocktails; 7 pm screening:
>> >
>> > http://meteoritemen.com/events/meteorite-men-premiere.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > And finally, for now, it was GREAT to see so many of you here for the
>> > 2010 Tucson gem show. I hope you had as much fun as I did, and also I
>> > hope you got more sleep that I did. Only 48 weeks 'til Tucson 2011.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers from the Old Pueblo,
>> >
>> > Geoff N.
>> >
>> > www.aerolite.org
>> > www.meteoritemen.com
>> > www.meteoriteblog.org
>> >
>> >
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> From:?Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> To:?meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:25:36 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:?[meteorite-list] PARTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF CHONDRITES - STUDYING METEORITE FALLS USING. DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR
> Hello Listers,
>
> I found this article last night that would go great with the Meteorite Men's' season one final episode tonight on how Doppler radar was used to locate the West, Texas fall zone.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Abstract
> We present Doppler weather radar as a new method for locating meteorite falls. This locates meteorites within a few km of the ground, provides some characterization in flight, and functions for new falls and archived events back to 1992.
>
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2010/pdf/1179.pdf
>
> Shawn Alan
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?"Jerry Flaherty" <grf2 at comcast.net>
> To:?"meteorite-list meteoritecentral" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:52:16 -0500
> Subject:?[meteorite-list] Carancas
> The Journal of the Meteoritical Societyl, December 2009, Vol. 44, #12 has a very thorough write up of the Carancas Event of Sept. 2007
> for those who have access to it.
> Jerry Flaherty
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?"Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To:?Jerry Flaherty <grf2 at comcast.net>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:01:39 -0500
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> Hi Jerry,
>
> Yes, a very interesting paper. ?According to the authors, Carancas was
> a true "hyper velocity impact", and the crater is not an explosion
> crater or penetration pit. ?Which begs the question - why did the
> Carancas impactor behave differently than other stony impactors?
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
> On 2/24/10, Jerry Flaherty <grf2 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The Journal of the Meteoritical Societyl, December 2009, Vol. 44, #12 has a
>> very thorough write up of the Carancas Event of Sept. 2007
>> for those who have access to it.
>> Jerry Flaherty
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?<ensoramanda at ntlworld.com>
> To:?meteorite-list meteoritecentral <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, Jerry Flaherty <grf2 at comcast.net>
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:31:58 +0000
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> Hi All,
>
> Any chance that someone has a copy of this article that they can let me see?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Graham E, UK
>
> ---- Jerry Flaherty <grf2 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The Journal of the Meteoritical Societyl, December 2009, Vol. 44, #12 has a
>> very thorough write up of the Carancas Event of Sept. 2007
>> for those who have access to it.
>> Jerry Flaherty
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net>
> To:?meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:35:38 -0500
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:31:58 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Any chance that someone has a copy of this article that they can let me see?
>
> If anyone has it but doesn't want their names attached to giving it away for
> free, I lack such compunctions. ?Send it to me and I'll make it available for
> everyone who wants it.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?"Herbert Raab" <hraab at aon.at>
> To:?meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:?Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:28:08 +0100
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February24, 2010
>
> Any chance of getting some data on cosmogenic radionuclides in Lovina?
> I guess that would settle the question about the cosmic origin once and for all.
>
> Cheers,
> ?Herbert
>
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> From:?Michael Silveus <msilveus at cox.net>
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> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:52:32 -0800
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> There is an entry here:
>
> http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=45817
>
> click on the Writeup from _MB 93: <http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/docs/mb93.pdf>_
>
> Not the same as what you are asking for but probably a lot is the same.
>
> Mike
>
> Darren Garrison wrote:
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>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:31:58 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Any chance that someone has a copy of this article that they can let me see?
>>>
>>
>> If anyone has it but doesn't want their names attached to giving it away for
>> free, I lack such compunctions. ?Send it to me and I'll make it available for
>> everyone who wants it.
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> From:?Michael Silveus <msilveus at cox.net>
> To:?meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:58:53 -0800
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> Online here:
>
> http://digitalcommons.library.arizona.edu/objectviewer?o=uadc%3A%2F%2Fazu_maps%2FVolume44%2FNumber12%2Fa9999780-173c-497c-8d80-e5a514bdaca3
>
> I was mistaken in the last post the above is much more detailed.
>
> Mike
>
> Darren Garrison wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:31:58 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Any chance that someone has a copy of this article that they can let me see?
>>>
>>
>> If anyone has it but doesn't want their names attached to giving it away for
>> free, I lack such compunctions. ?Send it to me and I'll make it available for
>> everyone who wants it.
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> From:?"Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
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> Date:?Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:04:08 -0500
> Subject:?Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas
> Hi Piper and List,
>
> That was my first thought as well. ?And the authors of the paper took
> it into account and they specifically addressed it :
>
> "The high altitude of the area might have played a role in the outcome
> of this event, but not a crucial one. ?Even if the Carancas meteorite
> had continued to sea level, it still would have produced a significant
> crater."
>
> An Figure is then provided (Fig. 11) that plots the speed of a falling
> body as a function of the altitude over the ground. ?It plots two
> bodies of different masses and drag coefficients. (p 1980)
>
> They concluded that altitude did not play a significant factor.
>
> So it leaves us to wonder, why did the Carancas body behave
> differently from what one would expect from a stony chondrite? ?How
> did it survive as a coherent mass until impact, given it's
> pre-atmospheric mass, composition, entry speed, and angle of descent?
>
> Those are questions that the paper left unanswered.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
> On 2/24/10, Piper R.W. Hollier <piper at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> Hi Jerry, Mike, and list,
>>
>> At 00:01 25-02-10, MikeG wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, a very interesting paper. ?According to the authors, Carancas was
>>> a true "hyper velocity impact", and the crater is not an explosion
>>> crater or penetration pit. ?Which begs the question - why did the
>>> Carancas impactor behave differently than other stony impactors?
>>
>>
>> If you mean "why was this a hypervelocity impact, when most others are not,"
>> the answer can probably be found in the altitude of Carancas. According to a
>> posting by Mike Farmer on 5 October 2007:
>>
>> The three of us who went to Peru GPS'd the Carancas
>>
>> meteorite crater, and all three came up with the same
>>
>> altitude, 3,792 meters. It should now be the highest
>>
>> meteorite found.
>>
>> This is ~11,900 feet.
>>
>> I know it was a tad difficult to breath up there.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> At and above that altitude, the air is much less dense than it is closer to
>> sea level. Not only does the impactor decelerate less than it otherwise
>> would, but it is also subject to less deceleration force that might
>> otherwise cause it to break up.
>>
>> Best wishes to all,
>>
>> Piper
>
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