[meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

From: Peter Davidson <*P.Davidson_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:14:46 -0000 Message-ID: <D7171847AEFC6A4893D80C75E547E271010EF8CC_at_nmsmail02.nms2k.int> · P.Davidson_at_meteoritecentral.com

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
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---- Peter Davidson <P.Davidson at nms.ac.uk> wrote: 
> Darryl
> 
> Thanks for the message. As it happens we have no material from NWA at
> all. When I took over the collection, I quickly discovered that there
> was no official acquisition policy for the Museum's meteorite
> collection. Most large museums have policies like this which define
> specific areas of interest in which curators concentrate their
> acquisition activities. This usually, not unreasonably, means Scottish
> material - but not exclusively so. Non-Scottish material can be
acquired
> for a large number of very good reasons. 
> 
> One of the tasks I have set myself for the next year is to draw up an
> official acquisition policy for our meteorite collection. This will
> focus on two areas, 1) Scottish material and 2) significant gaps in
the
> systematic collection, for instance Lunars (we have none) and NWA's
> 
> I attend a number of Mineral Shows every year and in 2009 I was
> fortunate to attend the Ensisheim Show. At these shows I take the
> opportunity to ask dealers and collectors about the market. At one of
> these shows, I was alerted by a dealer, who is also now a good friend,
> about the dangers of the NWA market. With this in mind, I have become
a
> little wary about making and purchases or recommendations. If the time
> comes when I can begin to make purchases for the collection, I will
rely
> heavily on the good a advice and experience of those dealers and
> collectors I have come to trust.
> 
> Have a great weekend
> 
> Peter Davidson
> Curator of Minerals
>  
> National Museums Collection Centre
> National Museums Scotland
> 242 West Granton Road
> Edinburgh
> EH5 1JA
> Phone: +44 131 247 4283
> p.davidson at nms.ac.uk
> www.nms.ac.uk
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darryl Pitt [mailto:darryl at dof3.com] 
> Sent: 12 February 2010 14:27
> To: Peter Davidson
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for
> granite!
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings Peter,
> 
> Out of curiosity, does your national collection include NWAs?
> 
> All best / Darryl
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Peter Davidson wrote:
> 
> > Dear All
> >
> > It is interesting that Darren should raise this topic now. Yesterday
> > afternoon (Thursday 11th), I was contacted by the BBC and asked to
> > comment on this very item and also to say something about the
illegal
> > trade in meteorites.
> >
> > I also took the opportunity to inform them of the situation in Sudan
> > regarding the arrest of "illegal" collectors.
> >
> > It goes without saying that, as a National Museum, we have to be
> > absolutely certain that any purchase we make is checked out and that
> > the
> > vendor has legal title to the object he/she is selling - this goes
for
> > any potential accession whether it is a priceless antique or  
> > artefact, a
> > piece of technology such as an old radio set or railway engine, or a
> > mineral/meteorite. It would be a disaster if we were knowingly to
buy
> > anything that is in any way "dodgy". The result of this is that we
are
> > no longer approached by sellers or dealers with this type of
material.
> > This means that I am not that knowledgeable on the illegal trade in
> > meteorites. I know it goes on - I am not blind - but I have no first
> > hand experience.
> >
> > What this matter does show is that the media are now picking up on  
> > this
> > trade and raising awareness of it to a new level. Much like they did
> > with the illegal collecting and trading in fossils and minerals. It
> > will
> > never stop it, but it does make everyone in the business, or it  
> > should,
> > a little more wary.
> >
> > Have a great weekend
> >
> > Peter Davidson
> > Curator of Minerals
> >
> > National Museums Collection Centre
> > National Museums Scotland
> > 242 West Granton Road
> > Edinburgh
> > EH5 1JA
> > Phone: +44 131 247 4283
> > p.davidson at nms.ac.uk
> > www.nms.ac.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of  
> > Darren
> > Garrison
> > Sent: 11 February 2010 19:45
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for
> > granite!
> >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gHt4NoeWwYXIjlcyAaDow
> > vFEK-FA
> >
> > Russia nabs meteorite smuggling ring
> >
> > (AFP) - 7 hours ago
> >
> > MOSCOW - Amid a huge bounty of contraband goods seized recently at a
> > Russian
> > airport, one far-out find floored customs officials: chunks of
> > meteorite.
> >
> > "On the customs declaration, the smugglers identified it as granite
> > for
> > construction and decoration of office space," Larisa Ledovskikh, a
> > spokeswoman
> > for customs at Moscow's Domodedovo airport, told AFP on Thursday.
> >
> > "But our officials could see it was clearly not granite!"
> >
> > The two smugglers -- who also tried to ship out silver antiques,
> > fossils,
> > semi-precious stones, microscopes and old books in the suspect cargo
> > --
> > were
> > initially charged with making a false declaration on their customs  
> > form.
> >
> > Only after a three-month investigation did officials discover that
the
> > mystery
> > lumps were fragments from outer space and the men part of a larger  
> > crime
> > ring
> > including experts and scientists, Ledovskikh said.
> >
> > "They were part of an organized criminal gang. They had worked out a
> > plan in
> > advance to smuggle out of Russian territory and to the Czech  
> > Republic...
> > two
> > meteorite chunks, each weighing 100 grams," she said.
> >
> > The two men were arrested on Sunday and charged with contraband, a
> > sentence that
> > carries a maximum of 12 years in prison in Russia.
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