[meteorite-list] Firearms related posts on a meteorite list

From: Mark Bowling <minador_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:11:19 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <799563.44784.qm_at_web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Mike,

Are you really trying to defuse the situation?? By bringing up Rush Limbaugh, gays/lesbians and tree huggers?? And Jason bringing "Jesus" last night?? You're just upsetting more people on the list.? And you have the gall to attack the "taste" of the photo, with an even more tasteless tirade...? Nobody is going to convince anybody, and all we have is even more vitreol in our public archives.? I've been giving a lot of private replies, how about trying that for once and stop dragging in more special interest groups...

Mark Bowling
Vail, AZ


----- Original Message ----
From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
To: Robert Ward <ironfromthesky.com at gmail.com>
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 7:31:00 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Firearms related posts on a meteorite list

Hi Robert and List,

Ok everyone, this is getting tiresome.

We are all overlooking the obvious - it was poor judgement on Michael
Johnson's part to post that photo.? Period.? Regardless of one's views
on guns, this List is global and that photo was bound to stir up
trouble - it doesn't take a psychic or mind reader to know that.
Posting that photo was essentially a troll - perhaps not intentional,
but the effect was the same.

It should be common sense not to post controversial material on a public list.

You say you are a "expert in the gun field" - Listen son, I was toting
around guns before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye.? There is
nothing you can tell me about guns that I don't already know and I
have forgotten more about guns than you will ever hope to know.? So go
take your passionate "it's people not guns that kill" defense and call
it in to your favorite right-wing AM-radio talk show - I'm sure you'll
have a eager audience of Rush Limbaugh fans to agree with you.

This is not a matter of pushing delete when you see something you
don't like - it's called "ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY" - not
"POINTING GUNS AT METEORITE PEOPLE PICTURE OF THE DAY".? Can you not
see that the photo could have been completely unexpected to many and
they were caught off-guard by it?

It was fine to stage to photo, it was perfectly good to have fun, it
was fine to share the photo with friends.? It was poor judgement to
post that photo to the Meteorite List.

Now excuse me, I have to go host a benefit for retired lesbian tree
huggers at my solar-energy-powered gay bar.

Best regards and happy hunting,

MikeG


On 2/3/10, Robert Ward <ironfromthesky.com at gmail.com> wrote:
> I spent three years training at the finest firearms institution on the
> planet learning about every aspect of the industry, and even designing
> and manufacturing my own firearms models, I am an expert in the field,
> and I assure you they are not "killing tools" and "assault rifles"
> when they leave the factory. They are pieces of metal and plastic,
> People do the killing, guns are inanimate objects. So Mr. G, I have
> been involved with firearms my entire life, ask my friends if they
> think I am a morbid person. You say we should not offend our European
> friends with our rights and traditions? Growing up I spent my summers
> in Africa, and I saw things that offended my that are far to morbid to
> mention here, I did not offend them by sharing my thoughts of these
> customs, I looked the other way and left, if that pic offends you push
> delete. I noticed a post that mentioned a statistic from the FBI
> website, 9,369 firearms related murders in the U.S. in 2002, another
> statistic to compare this to is the great genocide in Rwanda, 800,000
> murdered with machete's. I assure you, in the right hands some sharp
> Chinga, or Seymchan slices that are for sale in several rooms in
> Tucson could dispatch one's life just as fast as a firearm. Peter
> Davidson, those who know me would probably agree that I am someone
> that could be pigeon holed into some Hick-Redneck category, Peter, I
> am not offended by your prejudice, I am proud of my heritage growing
> up on farms and ranches, oh yeah, I am a NRA life member too. I trust
> that all of you that are so offended by this pic do not subscribe to
> cable, or satellite television services, nor do you attend movies with
> "morbid guns" in them. Grow up, just click delete, and spend this much
> time finding some useful input for the METEORITE LIST. Maybe I will
> post a pic of my cats high up on one of my collection pieces so the
> PETA people can have there turn. Robert Ward
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