[meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram

From: Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:11:10 -0700
Message-ID: <410D00B79F834EA6884E83878389F1AC_at_ATTHEFARM>

I'm normally just a lurker here on the forum, soaking up info and playing
with my meteorites.

Barry, This is such a great response to the message below, and quite
reasonable in the rebuke area considering the original message. I've
considered membership in IMCA just so I could better connect to other
collectors and dealers to both buy and sell rocks from space.

Everyone have a great weekend!
Rob
http://rob.holcomb.redbubble.com

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From: "Norbert Classen" <riffraff at timewarp.de>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:21 AM
To: "'Barry Hughes'" <bhughes at sneezy.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram

> Hello Barry,
>
> I usually won't even respond to that kind of unqualified "IMCA bashing"
> emails, but since you seem to be new to meteorites and the meteorite
> community I'd like to say a few words, just for the records & in public:
>
> You actually applied for IMCA membership less than a few weeks ago, but
> when
> I told you that your recommending members would have to write us a short
> recommendation letter you backed out and told me that you weren't aware
> that
> recommendation letters were required - even though this is clearly stated
> on
> our "Join" page and repeated in the confirmation email sent out by our
> system. I didn't hold this against you, and I still don't. I even helped
> you
> with the identification of the "lunar meteorite wrong" that kindled your
> interest in meteorites about six months ago. You thanked me for that, and
> wrote: "I think of the IMCA as an organization representative of honesty
> and
> responsibility and will some day be happy to join if you will have me."
> And
> I told you that you would be welcome.
>
> So what made you change your mind that fast? Now you are calling our
> Vice-President words (which I won't repeat, and for which you already
> apologized, somewhat halfheartedly), and you are calling the IMCA a
> "corrupt
> organization"... Based on what? The "confidential information" of people
> who
> weren't accepted as IMCA members in the past, or former members who have
> been expelled from our Association for not respecting our simple Code of
> Ethics (to which each member agrees to adhere prior to joining)? People
> that
> might have an interest in instrumentalizing you as a newbie to "pay back"
> to
> the bad people at the big bad IMCA? Make sure where you get your
> "information" from. You seem to be easily impressed, and I recommend you
> not
> to take everything at face value what you are told.
>
> The IMCA is run by a Board of Directors consisting of 9 elected Board
> Members from 5 different countries, and most of us Board members are no
> meteorite dealers. And if the minority of Board Members who are dealers
> and
> could have "conflicting interests" were as "corrupt" as you might think,
> how
> does it come that they are elected and re-elected by our membership? How
> does it come that "conflicting interests" don't play any role when it
> comes
> to votes and decisions on our Board of Directors? I think I, as the
> President of this Association, should be aware of that, right? I can
> assure
> you that you are totally wrong, not just about Anne Black but also about
> our
> Association. The IMCA Board of Directors, including Anne Black, have been
> involved in helping clearing up the pairing situation of NWA 5400 and its
> aleged pairings ever since this subject has been brought to our attention.
> Many questions still need to be answered, but that's in the nature of the
> subject as it requires oxygen isotope testing and more - something that
> takes time; so please be patient in this regard, and don't jump to
> premature
> conclusions.
>
> Yes Barry, silence might be a plague sometimes, but it's sure better than
> to
> rant about people you barely know, and about subjects you are not familiar
> with. I still won't hold this against you as you are obviously a newbie,
> and
> easily impressed. Anyway, since you brought this up in public I thought a
> public response would be appropriate. And I think another apology to the
> entire IMCA would be in order - we are surely no "corrupt organization",
> and
> I and many other IMCA find it insulting that you are making such
> outrageous
> and unqualified statements in public.
>
> All the best,
> Norbert Classen
> President IMCA Inc.
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>
> I'll tell you right know...I wanted to become a member of IMCA and asked a
> couple of good friends who agreed. ......
RANT Snip!
Received on Fri 20 Aug 2010 01:11:10 PM PDT