[meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- Bill kies

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:47:47 -0500
Message-ID: <SNT102-W134278626C9121609A3885A2040_at_phx.gbl>

Atul,
 
I don't appreciate your characterization of me as demanding, terse maybe. YOU contacted me Atul.
 
All I asked is that you prove that you are doing credible research before I share any hard earned information I have.
 
I don't understand why you think anyone who knows very little about you would mindlessly feed you co-ordinates for a hunt in progress. Contact any of the professional hunters out there and see how far you get!
 
Below are ALL the "terse demanding" replies I made to Atul's rude inquiries. I'm not including his end of the conversation as it's against list policy.
 
Forgive the pun but frankly, Atul was acting like A Tool.
 
Bill
 
 

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Hi Atul, Please send me a copy of your map. I can add at least xx new finds to it, maybe more in the future as I'm still hunting.
Thanks,
Bill
PS: Did you ever complete your map of the Park Forest Strewnfield? If so, I can add to that as well.
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Sorry Atul. It seems you are just fishing for information. If you want info from me concerning this new WI fall, you will have to make the first act of good faith. I am not a dealer. I collect Park Forest almost exclusively. I live only a few miles from there.
Regards,
Bill
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Please post your Park Forest results to the meteorite list.
Thanks,
Bill
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Let's see the result of your Park Forest study. That will inspire confidence in your current project.
Thank you,
Bill
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> To: almitt2 at localnet.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> From: atulkumar62 at yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:14:24 +0000
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- Bill kies
>
> Hi AL
> To clarify- I meant that I don't buy meteorites at a fall and resell them-
> I don't know who this Bill kies is but he has been sending me terse emails last night demanding I send him this or that data about WI and PF. I intend to ignore him till he can send polite and respectable emails.
>
> Anyway I hope all is well with you. I have not been on met list since 2005.
> Pls call me or email me your ph nos-
> Thanks
> Atul kumar
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: almitt2 at localnet.com
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:12:53
> To:
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.
>
> Hi Atul and all,
>
> First, I am pretty sure that I received a Park Forest map from Atul
> after I made the request. I know he shared information with
> researchers. I would also say this is a trustworthy individual if you
> want to give up your data so he can do some ploting.
>
> With that said, what bothers me a bit while you may no longer collect
> or buy meteorites, you certainly purchased meteorites from me at one of
> the NIAG Conventions. I know you were using strictly for education but
> you did buy them at that time.All my best to all.
>
> --AL Mitterling
> Mitterling Meteorites
>
>
> Quoting atul :
>
>
> PS - I neither buy or sell
>>>> stones-just do it for the fun.
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless
>>>> BlackBerry
>
>> Bill kies-I don't remember you- and certainly don't remember getting
>> any data from a bill kies.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Atul kumar
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bill kies
>> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:40:48
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.
>>
>>
>> I remember Atul making the same request during Park Forest but I
>> don't remember seeing his final results.
>>
>> Please post your Park Forest map, Atul.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:20:27 -0700
>>> From: balisterjames at att.net
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.
>>>
>>> Are you going to put the map up for the list?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>> From: atul
>>>> To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>>> Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 9:38:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] WI fall- new data for strewn field map.
>>>>
>>>> Hi all - I just spent 3 days in the area. New finds are coming in-
>>> I have
>>>> enough stones with authenticated data(by me) to make a prelim strewn field
>>>> map as a very amateur attempt .
>>> If any degreed people. On the list can help
>>>> get this refined - I would appreciate the help.
>>>
>>> If you have a confirmed
>>>> find- and wish to share data- I wecome it.
>>>
>>> Rob matson has been very
>>>> helpful and I wish to thank him.
>>>
>>> I belive we should see more 200 and 300
>>>> gram pcs soon.
>>>
>>> Please send data with pic to me -off list
>>>> pls-
>>> Regards
>>> Atul kumar
>>> Very amateur astronomer
>>> Educational director
>>>> -
>>> Calumet astonomical society
>>>
>>> PS - I neither buy or sell
>>>> stones-just do it for the fun.
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless
>>>> BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Paul H." <> ymailto="mailto:oxytropidoceras at cox.net"
>>>> href="mailto:oxytropidoceras at cox.net">oxytropidoceras at cox.net>
>>> Date:
>>>> Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:06:51
>>> To:> ymailto="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>>> href="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com<>
>>>> ymailto="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>>> href="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Subject:
>>>> [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic Resurfacing Hypothesis
>>>
>>>> Challenged
>>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> Ribbon tessera terrain on Venus
>>>> challenges catastrophic
>>> resurfacing hypothesis.
>>>
>>> Venus Records a Rich
>>>> Early History
>>> ScienceDaily, March 25,
>>>> 2010)
>>>
>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100326125438.htm
>>>
>>> the
>>>> paper is:
>>>
>>> Hansen, V. L., and I. Lopez, 2010, Venus records
>>> a rich
>>>> early history. Geology. vol. 38, no. 4,
>>> pp. 311-314,
>>>> doi:10.1130/G30587.1
>>>
>>> http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/4/311.abstract
>>>
>>> Hansen,
>>>> V. L., and I. Lopez, 2009, Implications of
>>> Venus Evolution Based on Ribbon
>>>> Tessera Terrain
>>> Relations Within Five Large Regional Areas. 40th
>>> Lunar and
>>>> Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar
>>> and Planetary Science XL), held March
>>>> 23-27, 2009
>>> in The Woodlands, Texas,
>>>> id.2306
>>>
>>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/2306.pdf
>>>
>>> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009LPI....40.2306H
>>>
>>> A
>>>> related article:
>>>
>>> Did A Mega-Collision Alter Venus?
>>> ScienceDaily (Feb.
>>>> 27,
>>>> 2008)
>>>
>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080226160017.htm
>>>
>>> The
>>>> paper is:
>>>
>>> Davis, H. J., 2009, Did a mega-collision dry
>>>> Venus'
>>> interior? Earth and Planetary Science Letters.
>>> vol. 268, no. 3-4,
>>>> pp.
>>>> 376-383.
>>>
>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.epsl.2008.01.031
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>> H.
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