[meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?

From: Warren Sansoucie <warren3174_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:40:51 -0500
Message-ID: <BAY132-W19D83CE0E3B6B780F71411D3080_at_phx.gbl>

Joe/ Greg / List,
 
I agree. I believe that is what the potential buyer was implying.
 
However, I think he(potential buyer) should have been appreciative for the fact that the seller was showing documentation and conveyance from the former collection. All of the things that sure up confidence in the authenticity of the specimen. It is obvious that the weights do not match. There was no cover up involved.
 
I say don't worry about it, your response was appropriate. Almost too kind. This person obviously awoke this AM with a large poop in his Wheaties and took it out on you.
 
Warren Sansoucie

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> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:25:34 -0700
> From: skyrockmeteorites at yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
>
> Greg,
> I think what he(the potential buyer) was trying to say is that the piece of documentation is not for the piece being sold, at least the weights being different, which would make the documentation in the photo not 100% accurate for the piece in the auction, even though it came from the piece that the card was describing. that was my take on what the potential buyer was trying to say. Maybe he just dont want to change the weight listed? who knows. I may be wrong, but that was my take. I do not think he needed to say anything about being banished. I think it is still a nice piece though.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Joe Kerchner
> http://illinoismeteorites.com
> http://skyrockcafe.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> To: Greg Catterton
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 8:12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
>
> Hi Greg, Count and List,
>
> So what if Greg did break up the specimen? (even though he didn't)
>
> It's his property, he paid for it, he can do anything he wants with
> it. It's nobody else's business. Personally, I wouldn't smash, or
> break up into crumbs, a historical specimen, specimen that is very
> rare, has museum provenance, or other special provenance. The
> specimens that I cut up or break up into smaller micromounts are
> more-common pieces like ordinary chondrites, high TKW meteorites, etc.
> But, I have some very rare micromounts in my personal collection that
> I wouldn't have if someone else didn't make them small enough for me
> to afford. I could never afford a sizeable piece of Sylacauga,
> Lafayette, etc. Somebody had to generate some specks and crumbs - and
> that probably was the result of intentional reduction in some cases.
> If I am in the market for a micromount, I really don't care too much
> *how* it became a micromount - as long as it is genuine and the
> provenance is solid.
>
> As long as there is a market for specks and crumbs, larger pieces will
> be reduced. It's a simple fact of market dynamics. Almahatta Sitta
> is a good recent example - I've seen some specks for sale that are so
> tiny that static electricity could move them around. Somebody is
> buying them because they are getting bids on eBay - so there is a
> market for them. Has this buyer emailed those sellers and demanded
> they be removed from the IMCA? Why not search eBay and contact all
> sellers of micromounts and demand that they be disbarred? The Hupes
> are well-known (and liked) for reducing larger pieces into smaller
> pieces for collectors - they have probably reduced more rare types and
> falls than anyone. Why not demand their removal as well? Well, none
> of them should be removed or judged, because many low-budget
> collectors have benefited from this specimen reduction, including
> myself.
>
> The buyer that emailed Greg was being overly dramatic - but who am I
> to call anyone dramatic? LOL
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
> On 4/21/10, Greg Catterton wrote:
>> I think you mis read it. He called for my banishment.
>>
>> I just dont understand why there is such anger without knowing the story
>> behind the piece. Its got some interesting history since I have owned it.
>>
>> It was purchased by someone at the Johnson Space center. When it arrived
>> broken due to poor handling by USPS, It was returned to me and I provided
>> another sample and decided to sell the small fragments from the larger
>> fragment that got broke.
>> Its a nice story behind the sample.
>>
>> Greg Catterton
>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>> IMCA member 4682
>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 4/21/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: countdeiro at earthlink.net
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
>>> To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" , "Greg
>>> Catterton"
>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:13 PM
>>> He sounds hot for a nice specimen and
>>> pissed that this one was a bit....shall we say small and
>>> unattractive...? If you had a larger and more photogenic
>>> piece he would have been hard pressed to turn it down. You
>>> didn't miss a sale opportunity here, did you? I know some
>>> customers lack social skills and act like jerks, but you've
>>> been around enough to have a hard skin and keep your eye on
>>> the game winner. A sale. Were just discussing this...I mean
>>> no criticism..but, you did call for his banishment and I
>>> disagree...stay cool, read between the lines and work these
>>> types. Sometimes, with your patience and experience, they
>>> get an epiphany and become a reliable source of revenue.
>>>
>>> Count Deiro
>>> IMCA 3536
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>>>Sent: Apr 21, 2010 7:37 PM
>>>>To: Greg Catterton
>>>>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known
>>> to anyone?
>>>>
>>>>Hi Greg and List,
>>>>
>>>>Just don't tell him that I take a hammer and smash some
>>> specimens into
>>>>micromounts. LOL
>>>>
>>>>He'd cry if he saw what I did to a slice of
>>> Thuathe. LOL
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>MikeG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 4/21/10, Greg Catterton
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I got a very strange question today, out of the
>>> blue that was kinda rude in
>>>>> my opinion.
>>>>> Anyone know this ebay user? philw3
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the listing and see the question I got
>>> from him. Please note there
>>>>> was no previous contact. May be a good person to
>>> add to the blocked buyers
>>>>> list - I did.
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390176039170#description
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Catterton
>>>>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>>>>> IMCA member 4682
>>>>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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