[meteorite-list] message from Vincent Jacques

From: Warren Sansoucie <warren3174_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:38:00 -0500
Message-ID: <BAY132-W288563B87DB3B1076D9F80D3120_at_phx.gbl>

Hello list - Vincent,
 
  I have several pieces that ,once cut ,look very similar to yours. Interesting that it was confirmed to be a meteorite. All of mine that look like that reside in my "wrong" jar along with all the other hematite and magnetite pieces sold to me as meteorites.
 
I can't really contribute to your search for more information, but I would be interested in what you do find out.
 
If anyone ever wants to look at any of my 'culls' for the off chance there is something to be discovered, let me know and I will get them to you. If any list member finds that we have something of interest or value, they can keep the portion I send them. Otherwise, the pieces may remain in the jar with the picture of Happy Madison proclaiming , "The price is wrong, Bob!".
 
I understand the problem with lab time and the good folks working there not having the time to investigate a possible weathered and rusty find.
 
I'm sure you could convince a scientist to work it in... if you offered to build a new wing for the university.
 
Warren Sansoucie


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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:12:51 +0200
> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> From: Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr
> Subject: [meteorite-list] message from Vincent Jacques
>
> Hi List,
>
> Vincent Jacques, who is not able to send posts
> right now, asked me to forward you the following message:
>
> Happy speculations...
>
> Zelimir
> ----------------------------
> Dear listo?des
>
> I would be very curious to have your ideas about
> the following meteorite, here above the story:
>
> In 2002, I have purchased a mix meteorites- earth
> stones from a Moroccan dealer during the
> Brussel?s mineral show. 60% of them was
> meteorites (many chondrites, one little eucrite,
> and some magnetics strange stones, terrestrials
> following my desert & meteorite experience)
>
> One of them showed a very strange
> lithology. Earth rock or meteorite? My first
> impression after cutting was ?a simple rock from
> Sahara?? but? a little magnetic attraction on one
> side and some cm? of very thick chocolate
> alteration on other side (old fusion crust?) asked to more investigations.
>
> The first question: ?Meteorite or not?? has been
> resolved in 2006 by prof Jedwab (University of
> Brussel?s) during a quick microprobe
> analysis. ?With lot of hesitation, it?s a
> meteorite, congratulation? He said: ?probably a
> very very old weathered chondrite, no
> interesting? perhaps achondrite, but my analysis
> is not perfect. I found only one little Fe-Ni
> flake. I think that was a mud aggregate, but it?s a meteorite?
>
> Other visual submission to prestigious
> institutions was blocked during the first
> contact: ?Oh, if it?s a meteorite, it is so
> weathered, no interest to study it? probably a little ordinary chondrite.?
>
> Recently, I have submitted a fragment of this
> ?rejected ugly meteorite? to a Belgian
> laboratory, who studies several meteorites
> including Antarctica meteorites from summer 2009-2010 collect.
>
> The first result is fall some days later: The
> meteorite is very close to ureilite group, but?
> there is a little problem. It contains an unusual
> part of pure carbon. Analysis continues at this time.
>
> We have searched equivalent meteorites, without
> result, except for Almahata Sitta meteorite.
>
> On internet, the following link shows a
> electronic photo of Almahata sitta. Photo's are
> very similar. Please, compare it with following
> electronic pictures of my ?rejected meteorite?.
>
> Almahata Sitta electronic photos (scroll the screen):
> http://www.universetoday.com/2009/03/25/meteorites-found-in-africa-from-first-predicted-asteroid-hit/natureasteroids3/
>
> My ?ugly meteorite?
> http://www.heberger-image.fr/view.php?image=96119_kkc01.jpeg
>
> Electronic images of my ?ugly meteorite? :
> http://heberger-image.fr/album_user_view.php?nom_album=Carbon%20rich%20ureilite&id_view=c2aee86157b4a40b78132f1e71a9e6f1
>
> Each square and reticule corresponds to an
> analysis area. Result on request by square if you are interested.
>
> I would be very curious to read you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> Universit? de Haute Alsace
> ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> 3, Rue A. Werner,
> F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
>
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Received on Mon 12 Apr 2010 04:38:00 PM PDT