[meteorite-list] Alien Life Topic

From: GREG LINDH <geeg48_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:52:08 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU125-W9AA323DB343653D2D43ADC9F00_at_phx.gbl>

 
     Hi Phil,
 
  I pretty much agree with your post. I believe most of those who don't believe in God, bow to the own god known as evolution. They are determined....highly motivated to believe in evolution no matter what.
  As for me, I look at the universe around me, from the macro to the micro, and all I see is an intricately *designed* universe. I say this knowing that my statement doesn't help me here on "The List", and that you probably don't agree with me either. It just makes me more of an outsider.
  The fact is, I'm a Christian (OOhhhh NOOoooo, Greg, DON'T admit that!) It get's even worse. I retired from a ministry at San Quentin Prison, so my beliefs are strong....not stupid, just strong.
  So, you may not believe in a deity, you may just see the weak arguments for evolution. So do I. I just go a step beyond that. I see strong arguments for creation.
  In any event, even though we may not be in complete agreement, I do appreciate your point of view.
  I also very much appreciate your little reference to "The Day The Earth Stood Still". "Klaatu barada nikto", back at you.
 
  Greg Lindh
 

> From: joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:24:05 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Life Topic
>
> Hi Kirk,
>
> You do understand the difference between evidence and proof, do you not? No
> one is denying the abundance of building blocks in comets and meteorites.
> You can't swing a dead cat on a rope and not hit a building block. Amino
> acids, glycine, phosphorus, carbon, water, you name it, it's everywhere,
> but it's not alive. Mere organic compounds by themselves are not even close
> to being live. And it's a huge gigantic step requiring more faith than I
> can muster to believe that life is an inevitable consequence of the mere
> presence of building blocks. If it were, there would be life on Mars, and
> scientists would be routinely creating life in the laboratory. Did I miss
> the headlines: "News Flash! Life Found On Mars!", or: "News Flash!
> Scientist Creates Life In Laboratory!", or "News Flash!, Life Found In Outer
> Space!" I think not.
>
> The belief in aliens seems to be a crypto-religious form of group think,
> much like the belief in angels. It's like a self replicating dogmatic meme,
> that requires no proof, or even evidence. You can remove the concept of gods
> from science, that's fine by me, just don't offer up Chance or Probability
> Theory (all kneel!) as the new god and expect me to worship it.
>
> Now proof of alien life would be when Klaatu lands his flying saucer on the
> South Lawn of the Whitehouse and shares a Bud Light with Barack Obama and
> Joe Biden.
>
> Klaatu barada nikto,
>
> Phil Whitmer
>
>
> OK Phil & others----here is some of the PROOF that you wanted!!
> Sounds pretty legit to me! Read the whole thing! Hmmmmm-----Sounds like my
> post last week about amino acids coming from Comet & Meteorite impacts
> bringing life to Earth from deep Space!
> Time to eat some crow----eh??
> Kirk.......:-)
>
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