[meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco

From: Abdelaziz Alhyane <abdelaziz_alhyane_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:10:26 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <461790.17341.qm_at_web45404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I call that the FACT, thanks Martin

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Matthias B?rmann <majbaermann at web.de> wrote:

> From: Matthias B?rmann <majbaermann at web.de>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco
> To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>, Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:03 PM
> Well spoken, Martin - I agree!
>
> Matthias
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:54 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco
>
>
> > Good Evening,
> >
> > maybe I should tell our experiences with our Moroccan
> colleagues,
> > as NWA is our main field of our occupation and Stefan
> was in Morocco from
> > beginning on of the NWA-period.
> > Because some of the assertions made here are in our
> eyes not acceptable.
> >
> > First of all we all have to bring to our minds to
> whome all this wealth of
> > new meteorites that we have today is due to.
> > I'm old enough to remember the days before the
> NWA-rush, where dealers,
> > collectors and scientists traded forth and back always
> the same few stones.
> > Nowadays we got in roughly 10 years more new
> meteorites than 40 years of
> > Antarctic hunts will yield, we have all the rare
> types, where we could only
> > dream of the hundred years before. And we have them at
> prices, that finally
> > each and every collector can take part in that
> fascinating world.
> > We got from Morocco stones, of which no scientist
> could divine, that
> > something like that could exist at all.
> > NWA was the historical boost for science, for the
> collectors and partially
> > also for the meteorite trade.
> >
> > And who made this all possible?
> >
> > The Moroccan people and the people of Maghreb.?
> Full stop.
> >
> >
> > We hear here on the list so often rants and words of
> haughtiness about the
> > Moroccan dealers, hunters, colleagues, experts.
> > What I never will understand, how people could speak
> so bad about them;
> > people, who built up their wealth and their
> reputation, they pride
> > themselves today, with the stones the Moroccans
> delivered to them.
> >
> > Why they then weren't going searching for meteorites
> by their own in the
> > deserts, if their business partners were so lousy as
> they tell?
> > Ask the US-hunters, ask the Oman-hunters, how many
> stones you have to pick
> > up, until you have a mediocre eucrite or a CV3, those
> stones, we all take
> > for granted.
> >
> > The people in Sahara are doing an incredible job.
> >
> > Yes of course, there are also black sheeps in Morocco
> - but those we do have
> > also among the Western dealers.
> > And of course down there is simply not the
> infrastructure, that one would
> > get each stone perfectly and readily classified and
> that the weights and the
> > find data would be known.
> > But that is a hundred times balanced, by the often
> lower prices there and by
> > the circumstance that one gets there such great stones
> at all!
> > Of course it can be here and there risky for a private
> collector, because
> > they often can't know the dealer yet, but why shall
> professional dealers
> > complain about the Moroccans? It is plain & simply
> part of their job, to
> > recognize the stones there, to recognize pairings, to
> buy them in Morocco
> > and to bring them to classification. If they don't
> want to do that, then
> > they shall sell classic and historic meteorites.
> >
> > And some of the recent posts here on the list ignore
> the positive
> > developments, the Moroccans made. First of all you
> find a lot of true
> > experts there, who know their stones very well.
> Partially they started to
> > send samples to classification. Note also, that we
> started to integrate the
> > Moroccans into IMCA.
> >
> > And that sweeping blow, condemning all Moroccans - we
> can't confirm that
> > perspective in no way.
> > Our experience is rather, that our partners, if a
> stone turns out to be a
> > pratfall, often are exerted to limit the damage, in
> taking back stones or in
> > balancing it with the next deal.
> >
> > And why?
> >
> > Because there exist a very simple rule. Not only for
> Morocco, but for life:
> >
> > Treat your partner with respect and fairness
> > and he will treat you the same way too.
> >
> >
> > Our opinion.
> > Good night!
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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